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Post by Just Somebody on Apr 9, 2020 13:21:03 GMT -5
Some of the most interesting yet grueling experiences I ever had in college were in course on critical thinking, the philosophy of science, the scientific method, a freshman journalism course, and one on social statistics (including a section on "lying with statistics"). Since then my personal reading leans toward non-fiction in the areas of science, skepticism, snippet history and law. I don't bring any of that stuff to this forum because it makes my brain hurt, and because I'm not good at participating in discussions that often degrade into pissing contests, name calling, and loudest-person-wins - moving further and further away from reason and verifiable fact. But just to throw in something, I think videos like these can be useful or entertaining: A series of lectures based on a recent popular course from the University of Washington called, "Calling Bullsh!t" (stupid how Proboards censors common words): A video by Michael Shermer ( Skeptic magazine) called, "Baloney Detection Kit," borrowing the title from the chapter, "The Fine Art of Baloney Detection" in the book, The Demon-Haunted World (a good read):
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Post by Just Somebody on Apr 9, 2020 13:25:25 GMT -5
Reposting a censored link by masking the title. If it doesn't work just go to calling[bs][dot]org and spell it out. Stupid Proboards: Calling BS lectures
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Post by House on Apr 9, 2020 13:26:08 GMT -5
I believe that it is sometimes appropriate for governments (and people) to lie if the ends justify the means. For example, if a wife asks: "Does this dress make me look fat?" And this "the ends justify the means" was the logic behind WHO, CDC and U.S. COVID-19 task force in not earlier recommending the use of masks by the citizenry. So that the inventory of N-95 and other medical masks, already diminished in supply by China, would be not hoarded by panic buying public and therefore causing limited availability to healhcare and first-responder workers. In other words, NOT because they now have different information regarding the use of masks by the public than they had previously when telling the public not to wear them.
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 9, 2020 14:12:01 GMT -5
Oh, come on. Hillary deleted over 30,000 emails that were subpoenaed. If that's not obstruction of justice I don't know what is. She should have been locked up. And that is NOT an opinion, it's a fact, one that I'm certain you don't like. If the emails were innocent she would have made certain that they were available in order to clear her. But Hillary Clinton had the guts to go to a hearing... It didn't take any guts for that murdering Traitor to go to ANY "hearing" back then. Hope the let us watch her at her Military Tribunal.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Apr 9, 2020 14:15:45 GMT -5
But Hillary Clinton had the guts to go to a hearing... It didn't take any guts for that murdering Traitor to go to ANY "hearing" back then. Hope the let us watch her at her Military Tribunal. Let me think...at that time a Republican majority in senate...she went there...they did not find anything...now Trump had not the guts despite having majority in senate...blocking all evidence, witnesses...despite having majority...hahahaha
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 9, 2020 14:25:04 GMT -5
If you are going to leave out discussion of conspiracy theories, you are going to have to exclude reports from CNN, the New York Times, the Washington Post, CBS, ABC, NBC, and MSNBC. These networks have done nothing but report conspiracy theories for the last several years. In case you have forgotten, these "news media" outlets provided nonstop false information about Russia collusion and a Ukrainian election interference situation that have been proven to be entirely false. All visitors in this forum can do is ask that you apply the rules in a consistent manner, so those media outlets mentioned should be included in your rules as unreliable information sources. You misunderstand the news process. When rumors first emerge, it is impossible to tell whether they are true or not. So it is a judgment call whether or not to publish them. Mainstream media may well publish things that turn out not to be true. Only the Pope is infallible - mainstream media is not. Since nobody is infallible, infallibility is not what distinguishes mainstream media from conspiracy theorists. What distinguishes mainstream media (MM) from conspiracy theorists (CT) is this: - MM tries to publish retractions when they are shown to be wrong. CTs are not and will never be wrong. - MM tries to air all reasonable sides of controversial issues. For CTs, no other sides exist. - MM tries not to use ad hominem arguments. CTs lack the intellectual capacity to understand the concept of "ad hominem". - MM tries to find supporting arguments for their positions. For CTs, the need for any supporting arguments at all is a fatal sign of weakness. - MM tries to rely on science. CTs use hunches and gut feel. - MM tries to use logical rather than insults. CTs believe that insults strengthen their logic. Note how Trump (an occasional CT) almost always insults those he disagrees with. - MM tries to be as specific as possible. CTs rely on unnamed sources, shadowy organizations, unidentified conspirators and vague accusations such that it is impossible to determine whether those accusations are true or false. - MM tries to fact check. CTs consider the need to stick to facts as an unwelcome hindrance. Here is an example: www.snopes.com/fact-check/jfk-plot-in-this-country-to-enslave/Note that the word "tries" appears prominently above. The difference between MM and CTs is that MM tries, not that MM is always successful. My point is not that MM is always reliable - far from it. My point is that although MM is far from perfect, the alternatives are even worse. (Churchill said the same about democracy.)
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 9, 2020 14:31:27 GMT -5
Let me think...at that time a Republican majority in senate...she went there...they did not find anything... It didn't take any guts for that murdering Traitor to go to ANY "hearing" back then. Hope the let us watch her at her Military Tribunal. What was hiden is NOW FOUND. Get back to me after which ever comes first, the murdering Traitor's sucide, or her Military Tribunal.
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Post by Guest 5 on Apr 9, 2020 14:38:32 GMT -5
You misunderstand the news process ... Socalfan - don't get me wrong - you seem like a decent individual and I'm grateful that you are willing to host this forum, but you can't be more wrong about the media. It is the Main Stream Media that is generating the conspiracy theories such as Russia collusion. The rise of alternative media sources is driven by the complete lack of truth coming from MM, and those sources are actually doing some investigative reporting.
I don't have a dog in the fight and I certainly don't want to host a forum, but it is too bad that this site has come to the point where the free flow of ideas is not accepted - its a FAR stretch from what the Amazon site offered.
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 9, 2020 14:46:02 GMT -5
You misunderstand the news process ... I call BS on every "point" you think you are making. I don't say you are lying, because I believe you are as simple minded and brainwashed as all those deceived by the Globalist propaganda.
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 9, 2020 14:47:26 GMT -5
it is too bad that this site has come to the point where the free flow of ideas is not accepted You are always welcome to use the unmoderated political forums.
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 9, 2020 14:55:50 GMT -5
I call BS on every "point" you think you are making. I don't say you are lying, because I believe you are as simple minded and brainwashed as all those deceived by the Globalist propaganda. Fool! I am the one who wrote all the Globalist propaganda.
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 9, 2020 15:00:33 GMT -5
Let me think...at that time a Republican majority in senate...she went there...they did not find anything...now Trump had not the guts despite having majority in senate...blocking all evidence, witnesses...despite having majority...hahahaha Why wouldn't Hillary have gone to a hearing? She wasn't put under oath!!!! And she answered about 90% of the questions by saying she didn't know or she didn't remember.
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 9, 2020 15:03:25 GMT -5
I call BS on every "point" you think you are making. I don't say you are lying, because I believe you are as simple minded and brainwashed as all those deceived by the Globalist propaganda. Fool! I am the one who wrote all the Globalist propaganda. No socalfan. You did not write any of it. And if they win, the overwhelming odds are you, and those you love, won't even survive to be one of their slaves.
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 9, 2020 15:17:05 GMT -5
I have lost interest in the undefined unnamed "Globalists". From now on, unless they are defined and named, I will delete most references to them. Those interested in discussing them can do so in the unmoderated forums.
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Post by djt2020 on Apr 9, 2020 15:17:21 GMT -5
it is too bad that this site has come to the point where the free flow of ideas is not accepted You are always welcome to use the unmoderated political forums. You allow druggies to shoot up in public, people to sh!t on your sidewalk, and steal up to $950.00 cash or goods at a time, but you draw the line at anyone posting anything you disagree with here.
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