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Post by ChrisR on Apr 29, 2022 15:18:08 GMT -5
Emily Bear already achieved far more years ago than all the Zieglers, D‘Amelios will ever .. Emily needs a growing fanbase on social media, if she wants the current momentum that she seems to have to continue moving forward. |
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 29, 2022 15:24:46 GMT -5
Since we have spoken of West Side Story on this site before and I had spoken of it pretty glowingly when I saw it is a rather empty theater (I like going to movies much more now that no one else does  ), I thought some of you might want to see a number from it. Some of the scenes are now on YouTube. The video below is Spielberg's celebratory treatment of "America":
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Post by BOGC on Apr 29, 2022 15:39:20 GMT -5
Not everything is about money, fame...btw. You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. And that's why so many end up addicted or dead. Those things have their place, but they're FAR from all that matters, really far, almost the opposite of what really matters. |
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Post by donkey on Apr 29, 2022 15:45:40 GMT -5
You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. And that's why so many end up addicted or dead. Those things have their place, but they're FAR from all that matters, really far, almost the opposite of what really matters. TRUTH!!!! |
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 29, 2022 15:47:22 GMT -5
Emily Bear already achieved far more years ago than all the Zieglers, D‘Amelios will ever .. Emily needs a growing fanbase on social media, if she wants the current momentum that she seems to have to continue moving forward.
The real irony, of course, is that the main success Emily has had and the only reason she was called upon to do the things she has done lately was because of the success of Bridgerton and the Grammy she achieved for it. So what exactly is Bridgerton? It is a TV show streaming on Netflix about the life of nineteenth century London debutantes that became extremely popular with teenage girls. Emily and Abigail Barlow wrote a musical based upon the TV show. And how did they get an audience for their musical? They started uploading performances of their songs for the proposed musical to TikTok - the favorite social media app of teenage girls and the one that made Charlie D'ameilo famous. So basically eulenspiegel is chastising others for doing what Emily herself is doing: fishing for an audience of teen girls on social media.
I am not knocking Emily for doing that as it is a very smart move. Emily is a young woman herself and would like to be reach a wide audience of her peers. It's human nature. She is probably a fan of the Bridgerton show given she knew enough to begin setting it to music accurately enough to satisfy other fans of the show. She then took her work to a social media platform that matched her target audience. All of this is very smart and shows she is getting the hang of marketing herself. But let's not pretend she is some saintly figure levitating above all the mere mortals and is only in it for only the art's sake. She went in whole hog to sell herself in the most obvious way possible. In other words, she did exactly what the D'amelios, Zieglers, and others have done. Sure, she is an artist and does excellent work but it is not as though she is pure and untouched by commercial concerns.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 29, 2022 16:09:28 GMT -5
Not everything is about money, fame...btw. You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters.
There is a kernel of truth there but greatly exaggerated. Anything related to success in the performing arts has multiple factors at play. You can be an artist who achieved great riches and fame but with little merit and are now widely despised. You can have be artist who also had riches and fame with music of quality but are now widely praised. Sure, riches can be great thing but I would rather it be accompanied by being famous for being good than being famously bad. For an example of the latter, consider Nickelback and Creed - two of the biggest rock bands of the 1990s who now battle out for the spot of worst major rock band of all time. On the other hand, two other big rock bands of the era (U2 and REM) are considered icons. I would rather be a member of the one of the latter groups, but maybe that's just me.
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Post by amg1977 on Apr 29, 2022 16:13:53 GMT -5
So here is a novel idea: Let's talk a little about Jackie. Let us assume the accounts of a proposed album of Joni Mitchell covers is accurate. Do you think this will help her career, hurt her career, or do nothing positive or negative for her career? Whatever your answer, what should be her next move after this album and accompanying concerts?
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Post by richard on Apr 29, 2022 16:17:51 GMT -5
You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. And that's why so many end up addicted or dead. Those things have their place, but they're FAR from all that matters, really far, almost the opposite of what really matters. Personal happiness is probably the most important and that is where just about everyone we talk about on this site beats Jackie. Grace Vanderwaal, The Z-Girls, Olivia Rotrigo, Tate Mcrae, Emily Bear and I could name dozens of others. They all seem very happy and excited in all that they do. Jackie does not seem happy and it seem to look like everything she does is a chore to her even posting an occasional instagram. Jackie even made a thing of running around and saying how unhappy she is. For someone that is suppose to be a celebrity we don't even know if Jackie has a boyfriend. While Jackie's OTT fans always say they need their privacy. The Evancho's are the ones that were willing to put their whole family on national TV to air their laundry in public for a few dollars. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2022 16:36:27 GMT -5
Not everything is about money, fame...btw. You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. If a singer is famous and successful, they'd also have money. If the best singer on the planet isn't well known, they don't earn much money. So money and fame go hand in hand. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2022 16:38:19 GMT -5
And do something different with her hair! It's also so slicked down that it looks like it was painted on her scalp. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2022 16:50:39 GMT -5
You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. And that's why so many end up addicted or dead. Those things have their place, but they're FAR from all that matters, really far, almost the opposite of what really matters. I well remember when Jackie went back to public school and her OTT's were saying that she was going to have such great memories from school, was having a normal childhood and was being raised by ideal parents, and the Zieglers were going to be unhappy kids hooked on drugs because they had parents who weren't there for them and they'd end up all messed up. Hmmmm. How wrong they were. It is possible to be famous, successful, rich and still be quite happy. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 29, 2022 17:03:44 GMT -5
You are mistaken. Money and fame may not matter to you but in showbiz, nothing else matters. And that's why so many end up addicted or dead. It is certainly true that many rich and famous people end of addicted or dead. Unfortunately, many unknown poor and middle class people also end up addicted or dead. So what is your point here? |
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Post by ChrisR on Apr 29, 2022 17:11:47 GMT -5
So here is a novel idea: Let's talk a little about Jackie. Let us assume the accounts of a proposed album of Joni Mitchell covers is accurate. Do you think this will help her career, hurt her career, or do nothing positive or negative for her career? Whatever your answer, what should be her next move after this album and accompanying concerts? I hate to say it, but if this album is going to be nothing more than a cover album consisting of mostly Joni Mitchell songs, I have my doubts that this album will be that much more successful than her previous album. It will be interesting to see how many OTT's will buy multiple copies of it. They certainly did that in the pass which clearly helped to boost her sales. As of now, I don't expect any real boost to her career. I hope I'm wrong. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Apr 29, 2022 17:27:49 GMT -5
So here is a novel idea: Let's talk a little about Jackie. Let us assume the accounts of a proposed album of Joni Mitchell covers is accurate. Do you think this will help her career, hurt her career, or do nothing positive or negative for her career? Whatever your answer, what should be her next move after this album and accompanying concerts? One can predict the answer to your question by looking at the results of every album she has released after DWM. It has always been the same. Her fans have proclaimed it to be a masterpiece, but sales/streams are modest and have gone down from the previous album. And the impact on her career has been minimal with concert ticket sales continuing their gradual decline. Her next move? She has no choice but to continue to stay the course she has followed for the last 10 years. Her career will decline slowly but she has enough momentum to enjoy modest success for a while. How long is anybody's guess and I am hanging around to see the answer. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Apr 29, 2022 17:30:33 GMT -5
So here is a novel idea: Let's talk a little about Jackie. Let us assume the accounts of a proposed album of Joni Mitchell covers is accurate. Do you think this will help her career, hurt her career, or do nothing positive or negative for her career? Whatever your answer, what should be her next move after this album and accompanying concerts? I hate to say it, but if this album is going to be nothing more than a cover album consisting of mostly Joni Mitchell songs, I have my doubts that this album will be that much more successful than her previous album. It will be interesting to see how many OTT's will buy multiple copies of it. They certainly did that in the pass which clearly helped to boost her sales. As of now, I don't expect any real boost to her career. I hope I'm wrong. I'm doubt it will do all that well, we'll see what they do to promote it, but I'm more curious to see if they put it in the classical album catagory again like they always do. |
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), I thought some of you might want to see a number from it. Some of the scenes are now on YouTube. The video below is Spielberg's celebratory treatment of "America": 
