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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 10:26:12 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals of AGT JUST like TMS , WERE I THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE SUNG ANOTHER SONG!
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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 11:01:40 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals of AGT JUST like TMS , WERE I THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE SUNG ANOTHER SONG! I don't get the criticism here about Jackie's final performance. I thought it was fantastic. And that song shows a lot of range. |
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 11:05:36 GMT -5
It was great Donkey, but Just think if she had sung the song she did in the semifinals, were the crowd went crazy for her!
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 19, 2023 11:36:42 GMT -5
If you remember, the format was slightly different then. There was a Top 10 Final that had ten contestants and then a Grand Final that had four. Three of those four contestants were considered close at the time (the fourth was some dance troupe that really had no shot other than as a spoiler): Michael Grimm, Jackie, and some strange character named Prince Poppycock. In general, there is a segment of the audience who will never vote for child acts so the best chance for Jackie was for both the other two to do well and split that part of the vote. Well, the aforementioned Poppycock completely self-destructed in the Grand Final and all the "anybody but a kid" vote ended up with Grimm.
When Grace won five years later, the format had changed and there was just the ten contestant finals and it was stacked with some very good acts. The "anybody but a kid" vote was thus diluted and finishers 1-5 were all within a few percentage points of each other. Plus that was the year Simon Cowell joined the panel and brought a younger audience with him. The same applies to Darci Lynne Farmer a year later. Since then, the audience for AGT has started to age upward again and it would be very difficult for a kid to win now. That may be one reason that Cowell has begun considering the idea of spinning off a kid's version of the show for under 18 acts to appeal to a younger audience.
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Post by Grace Fan on Jul 19, 2023 11:36:44 GMT -5
Hey Sims! 👋👋 I have no problem with it. I'm not delusional like some people and am well aware that Grace and many of the other artists talked about here aren't the favorites of others here. I just thought his recent change-up was amusing. Except there is no "recent change". I stick a little yawn comment in every now and then about Grace...it's fairly rare, but it happens. What's more amusing, is how this particular, rather mild post triggered you. I was just having a little fun there Grace Fan, settle down.  lol LOL definitely not "triggered." As I said, I was amused. You didn't just make that "yawning" post towards Grace. You also made another post along the lines of "not liking her" or whatever in the same 24 hour span of time. Just seemed like more than usual from you, but carry on 🫡 |
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Post by colt46 on Jul 19, 2023 11:49:37 GMT -5
It was harder when Jackie was competing, only the top 4 made the finals!
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Post by Disappointed on Jul 19, 2023 12:04:05 GMT -5
So? is a female guest who posts under many names. If you see a pro-Jackie post by someone other than msims, it is likely to be So? or one of the other names she uses. This wouldn't happen to be another wannabe CC singer with a failed music career, would it? |
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 19, 2023 12:11:54 GMT -5
In general, there is a segment of the audience who will never vote for child acts so the best chance for Jackie was for both the other two to do well and split that part of the vote. Well, the aforementioned Poppycock completely self-destructed in the finals and all the "anybody but a kid" vote ended up with Grimm. You are always welcome to speculate, but do you have any real evidence to suggest that the anti-child faction is big enough to make a significant difference? After all, child acts have been a big part of showbiz from the beginning, with Jackie Coogan and Shirley Temple. |
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Post by Guest 4 on Jul 19, 2023 12:23:16 GMT -5
Grimm saved his best performance for last, Jackie quite honestly didn't. I have no issues with Grimm beating Jackie. That raises the question: should the AGT winner be judged based on their finals performance or all their performances? It seems to me that the winner should be the contestant with the most talent, not the one that performed best on any specific occasion. Supposedly the most talented are the ones who move ahead in each round. What's weird and arbitrary about AGT is that a very good singer, can lose out to a sword swallower or a dancer just because the latter got more votes. Shows like American Idol and The Voice at least compare apples to apples in the elimination rounds. AGT would be more interesting as a variety show, not a competition. |
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 19, 2023 12:23:36 GMT -5
In general, there is a segment of the audience who will never vote for child acts so the best chance for Jackie was for both the other two to do well and split that part of the vote. Well, the aforementioned Poppycock completely self-destructed in the finals and all the "anybody but a kid" vote ended up with Grimm. You are always welcome to speculate, but do you have any real evidence to suggest that the anti-child faction is big enough to make a significant difference? After all, child acts have been a big part of showbiz from the beginning, with Jackie Coogan and Shirley Temple.
I'm judging from reading the comments on AGT's video posts. Whenever a kid's act looks like a contender and their video is posted, there is always a lot of comments about how kids have an unfair advantage because of the cuteness factor and shouldn't be in the contest, etc. There are a lot of complaints that the kids should only compete against each other in their own show similar as to how "The Voice" and "So You Think You Can Dance" had kids' versions. It is also reflected in this article:
Addendum: Statistical significance depends on the situation. If there is a one-sided contest where a kid act is clearly the favorite, then there is no significance. Similarly, if there is more than four contestants closely vying for the win, such a block of votes would be too divided to be significant. But if there is a close race between two or three, as is often the case, then those few percentage points could be the difference between winning and losing.
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Post by amg1977 on Jul 19, 2023 12:34:45 GMT -5
Speaking of Darci Lynne, eulenspiegel has posted six videos over in the other artists' section of Darci getting in touch with her inner rocker chick.
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Post by richard on Jul 19, 2023 13:02:00 GMT -5
Fair comparison Jackie Evancho to Olivia Rodrigo: Can we expect Jackie first album to overtake Olivia's first, after all Jackie has all the advantages. Professional singer for 13 year. 3 years older than Olivia. Of course Jackie does have that boat anchor of a management team around her neck. http://instagram.com/p/Cur8DNjMMmB http://instagram.com/p/Cu2CjsSxi80 |
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 19, 2023 13:45:14 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals of AGT JUST like TMS , WERE I THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE SUNG ANOTHER SONG! I don't get the criticism here about Jackie's final performance. I thought it was fantastic. And that song shows a lot of range. It was at that time was a great mistake to sing a song of just one faith , the other faiths ( voters ) would NOT vote for her because of it and that is the reason she lost , you can Book It . |
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Post by Beachguy on Jul 19, 2023 13:48:48 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals of AGT JUST like TMS , WERE I THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE SUNG ANOTHER SONG! For once you are correct , it lost her 1st Place . Lesson is don't sing a song of religion to win ALL voters . |
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Post by donkey on Jul 19, 2023 14:20:05 GMT -5
Jackie picked the wrong song to sing 🎤 in the finals of AGT JUST like TMS , WERE I THOUGHT SHE SHOULD HAVE SUNG ANOTHER SONG! For once you are correct , it lost her 1st Place . Lesson is don't sing a song of religion to win ALL voters . lol...I don't think "religion" had anything to do with Jackie not winning...it's just a beautiful, well known song. |
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lol 