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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 4, 2023 7:58:42 GMT -5
You don’t restart a career without their being problems, many here expect way to much Who expects too much? As far as I can tell, most think Jackie 3.0 is a long shot. I certainly do. |
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Post by richard on Oct 4, 2023 9:17:49 GMT -5
I don’t hear taps , hey Donkey why don’t you get a lottery ticket 🎫, since you know so much, I think 🤔 you are wrong! How could you ever go see Jackie perform again when you don’t believe in her ? You don’t restart a career without their being problems, many here expect way to much, I still believe she will live a comfortable life singing! forum members are gleefully giving you a like for your doom and gloom comment about Jackie! When are you hosting the funeral on Jackie’s career ?Sorry I won’t be there because I am not a fair weather fan! I think most of us think Jackie will always have a singing career, now whether she will be able to some day have a family and support Daddy also is another thing. Jackie is a poster child for why you should never have you parents running/ruining your career. As the other young celebrities mentioned here that their parent stayed out of managing their career as shown. For example Grace Vanderwaal, The Z-Girls, Jenna Ortega, Olivia Rodrigo, Billie Eilish, Tate McRae. It doesn't matter if you are a singer, actor, model as soon as possible get them some profession management.
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Post by donkey on Oct 4, 2023 11:56:14 GMT -5
You don’t restart a career without their being problems, many here expect way to much Who expects too much? As far as I can tell, most think Jackie 3.0 is a long shot. I certainly do. Er, it's Jackie 2.0. She's really only had one career so far and she's been trying to start Jackie 2.0 career for a number of years now, i.e. Jackie reinvented. |
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Post by donkey on Oct 4, 2023 11:59:08 GMT -5
I Knew Disappointed would be back, her hatred for Jackie keeps bringing her back, she is allowed to say what ever she wants about Jackie in this forum! How could she pass it up being able to say what ever you want without any sanctions give! As far as I know, Disappointed came back to discuss Rick's cats. But I understand your point. So, from now on, I hereby give you permission to say whatever you want about Jackie in this forum without any sanctions. You have earned the right to be treated equally with Disappointed. She's clearly still here reading comments and decided to pipe in about the cat issue. lol |
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Post by donkey on Oct 4, 2023 12:06:10 GMT -5
I don’t hear taps , hey Donkey why don’t you get a lottery ticket 🎫, since you know so much, I think 🤔 you are wrong! How could you ever go see Jackie perform again when you don’t believe in her ? You don’t restart a career without their being problems, many here expect way to much, I still believe she will live a comfortable life singing! forum members are gleefully giving you a like for your doom and gloom comment about Jackie! When are you hosting the funeral on Jackie’s career ?Sorry I won’t be there because I am not a fair weather fan! LoL...I'm not a fair weather fan either. If I was, I wouldn't have gone to that concert last year and I wouldn't still be here. But I'm also realistic. Sure, I support Jackie on her social media and try to boost her confidence because I know she reads those comments. I care about Jackie and I care about her career. But here, this is the place that allows us to honestly discuss things as far as the current state of her career is concerned and how things look for Jackie going forward. The question isn't whether I believe n her, it's what does all the evidence thus far point towards as far as Jackie 2.0 is concerned. Thus far its quite dismal. I certainly hope things get better for her, but thus far its just not looking good at all. Jackie sees it, I see it, most on this board see it...don't you see it Coltman? |
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Post by colt46 on Oct 4, 2023 12:08:23 GMT -5
I just ask for the same treatment Disappointed gets and others in this forum, that is what it means to live in a country where you can hear all sides of a issue!
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Post by colt46 on Oct 4, 2023 12:15:31 GMT -5
Your are hearing taps , where does Jackie say she sees the writing on the wall and her career is over? Please point out those statements Jackie has made !
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Post by donkey on Oct 4, 2023 12:46:46 GMT -5
Your are hearing taps , where does Jackie say she sees the writing on the wall and her career is over? Please point out those statements Jackie has made ! You seem to be accusing Jackie of being stupid and delusional. The last few albums have done poorly. The last Album tour lasted a month in wineries with lots of empty seats. Her social media followers went down after her last single released. She hasn't toured in a year and currently has no tour scheduled for the next year. She's singing the yellow pages on Instagram for crying out loud, and when someone suggested she should make an album of herself singing the yellow pages, Jackie said, "Don't temp me". Jackie isn't stupid and isn't delusional. She can't possibly miss how bad things are. She has more originals to release and I am excited to hear them. But if the results are anything like the last release, it's a huge fail commercially. Of course Jackie's not going to publicly say things are bad...that's would be self-defeating bad PR. That would be stupid. Surely you don't think Jackie is an idiot? I don't. It's like a presidential administration when the economy sucks. Are they going to admit things are bad and that their policies have failed? Um, no...they spin it, or, avoid talking about it at all. Are they aware that the economy is bad? Yes, is everyone aware that the economy is bad? Is it obvious? Yes and Yes. Jackie is spinning/avoiding it Colty, but she is very clearly aware of all the numbers, including concert attendance, album/song streams/sales, etc. She's not a moron, and she's not delusional. It's one thing to support Jackie and root her on and hope she does well. But here on this board, let's not pretend speaking the truth about the state of Jackie's career equates to "not believing in her". We all know she can likely keep doing a handful of concerts a year, including Ocean City and Xmas shows. But as far as successfully reinventing herself, pulling in a new audience base, and being able to do full concert tours like she used to...those days seem over. I'd love to be wrong, but all evidence points to the contrary. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 4, 2023 13:03:20 GMT -5
I haven't seen the numbers go up, which makes me think that she hasn't reached new listeners. But is that true? Wouldn't we know whether people have heard the song or not by all the usual indicators? I personally haven't been keeping track, but it seems to be this forum's general opinion that the numbers aren't there. Since streaming provides 84% of music industry revenues, Jackie 3.0 cannot succeed without healthy streaming. Spotify is the only music streaming platform I am aware of that publishes statistics but, fortunately, it is the largest music streamer. You can see for yourself how many streams BME has here, in the line below the big title: As of now, BME has 18176 streams after almost 4 weeks of release. Assuming payment of $0.003 per stream, BME has earned Jackie $55 at Spotify. Assuming Spotify is 25% of Jackie's total streams, BME has earned Jackie $220 in total streaming. Some people may consider that a triumph but I think it is very low. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 4, 2023 13:08:31 GMT -5
Er, it's Jackie 2.0. She's really only had one career so far and she's been trying to start Jackie 2.0 career for a number of years now, i.e. Jackie reinvented. Jackie attempted exactly the same thing with exactly the same "going crazy" songs in 2H Pt2 which I consider to be Jackie 2.0. So this attempt is Jackie 3.0. But there is always hope. Remember Microsoft didn't get it right until Windows 3.1. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Oct 4, 2023 13:52:33 GMT -5
As far as I know, Disappointed came back to discuss Rick's cats. But I understand your point. So, from now on, I hereby give you permission to say whatever you want about Jackie in this forum without any sanctions. You have earned the right to be treated equally with Disappointed. She's clearly still here reading comments and decided to pipe in about the cat issue. lol I'm glad that she did, now I know who she reported the issue to and know that they didn't respond. Of course I never had a problem with disappointed and I often agreed with her. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Oct 4, 2023 13:54:50 GMT -5
I just ask for the same treatment Disappointed gets and others in this forum, that is what it means to live in a country where you can hear all sides of a issue! So you're saying that you want a lot of your comments deleted also? |
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Post by Guest 5 on Oct 4, 2023 13:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by Guest 5 on Oct 4, 2023 14:08:59 GMT -5
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Post by msims on Oct 4, 2023 14:47:48 GMT -5
colt must have mentioned the final of AGT 25 times and it turns out: no she wont be on the finale. AGT Fantasy League listed the nominees. No Susan Boyle or Jackie. However Jackie will be in Napa around the time of filming. |
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