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Post by donkey on Oct 6, 2023 9:25:11 GMT -5
If in 2024 at some point Jackie decides to get out of showbiz , then so be it ! Then once in private life can be left alone and let her live a private life ! Jackie is under no obligation to support dear old Dad, he can go clean pools for a living, he is certainly good at laying by them! A career that has lasted for over a decade is nothing to be ashamed of, how about all those singers who’s career’s only last a few years? Jackie had a great run and a nice career. It's something to be very proud of. So it didn't really translate into a successful adult career...sometimes that happens. She can keep trying and mabye some new opportunities will come about. But if not, she will always have that incredible first career. |
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Post by colt46 on Oct 6, 2023 9:48:03 GMT -5
No you could not win by just singing the phone book 📕!
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Post by richard on Oct 6, 2023 10:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 6, 2023 10:18:00 GMT -5
Of course, keep in mind that in the last decade, Jackie's voice hasn't done anything for her, nor has Grimm's stage presence done anything for him, nor has Camp's writing, producing skills and broad experience done anything for him. You're one that's argued that songwriting and persona (and maybe other skills) are needed in combination. If they're together in a group, maybe they don't have to be all in one person. You don't get to argue it both ways just so you can hold up a forehead "L". Let's look at the the skills in this collaboration. Voice: I've always argued that all that is needed for pop success is an average voice. Anything better is irrelevant. Many of the best selling singers have only very average voices: Beatles, Rolling Stones, Elton John, Ed Sheeran, Michael Jackson, etc, etc. Persona: Stage skills, which are easily learnt, have nothing to do with persona. Public persona is what the celebrity presents to his/her fans during their interactions. In this day and age, most interaction with fans is via media such as TV, radio, print and social media. Social media is by far the dominant interaction and the best metric for persona is the number of followers. For example, Instagram followers: Jackie 102K, Camp 2.2K, Grimm 8.6K, Vanderwaal 6.3M. Songwriting (successful songs): Jackie 0, Grimm 0, Camp 0 (last 15 years). I'm not optimistic. |
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Post by Guest 5 on Oct 6, 2023 10:19:24 GMT -5
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Post by Socal Fan on Oct 6, 2023 10:19:33 GMT -5
Proof AGT is not a talent show but a popularity show. Adrian Stoica & Hurricane won AGT this year yes a dog won out against everyone But obviously an extremely talented dog. |
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Post by 1 Guest on Oct 6, 2023 10:20:20 GMT -5
Proof AGT is not a talent show but a popularity show. Adrian Stoica & Hurricane won AGT this year yes a dog won out against everyone But obviously an extremely talented dog. And an extremely talented trainer. |
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Post by Guest 5 on Oct 6, 2023 10:21:03 GMT -5
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Post by colt46 on Oct 6, 2023 10:23:37 GMT -5
Jackie has made more post recently and that is good, the bad news not many know who she is ! She has to find a way to get her name out there and that is the hard part!
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Post by Guest 5 on Oct 6, 2023 10:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by 1 Guest on Oct 6, 2023 10:27:41 GMT -5
If in 2024 at some point Jackie decides to get out of showbiz , then so be it ! Then once in private life can be left alone and let her live a private life ! Jackie is under no obligation to support dear old Dad, he can go clean pools for a living, he is certainly good at laying by them! A career that has lasted for over a decade is nothing to be ashamed of, how about all those singers who’s career’s only last a few years? Jackie had a great run and a nice career. It's something to be very proud of. So it didn't really translate into a successful adult career...sometimes that happens. She can keep trying and mabye some new opportunities will come about. But if not, she will always have that incredible first career. Yes, she'll always have that incredible first career, but she'll need a means of supporting herself for hopefully a very long time. She's 23. |
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Post by richard on Oct 6, 2023 10:47:19 GMT -5
Jackie had a great run and a nice career. It's something to be very proud of. So it didn't really translate into a successful adult career...sometimes that happens. She can keep trying and mabye some new opportunities will come about. But if not, she will always have that incredible first career. Yes, she'll always have that incredible first career, but she'll need a means of supporting herself for hopefully a very long time. She's 23. She has to support Daddy don't forget also. |
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Post by Guest 5.1 on Oct 6, 2023 11:11:10 GMT -5
If in 2024 at some point Jackie decides to get out of showbiz , then so be it ! Then once in private life can be left alone and let her live a private life ! Jackie is under no obligation to support dear old Dad, he can go clean pools for a living, he is certainly good at laying by them! A career that has lasted for over a decade is nothing to be ashamed of, how about all those singers who’s career’s only last a few years? Jackie had a great run and a nice career. It's something to be very proud of. So it didn't really translate into a successful adult career...sometimes that happens. She can keep trying and mabye some new opportunities will come about. But if not, she will always have that incredible first career. Perhaps first 2 year career , to do what with today . |
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Post by colt46 on Oct 6, 2023 11:38:37 GMT -5
Guest 5.1 your post makes no sense! Jackie had more than a two year career!
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Post by colt46 on Oct 6, 2023 11:40:23 GMT -5
Jackie could buy a food 🥘 franchise for example, see what her interest are and find a career doing that!
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