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Post by eulenspiegel on May 27, 2024 9:32:11 GMT -5
The thing is it wasn’t Jackie’s fault how her parents treated fans, she was a minor remember that! Absolutely right. Everything that has gone wrong with Jackie's career is because of her parents. Everything that has gone right with her career is because of Jackie. This is not true..JE made the biggest mistake..her misconception she could have a career especially in her genre without putting any real effort into it..no formal training..nothing..she kind of wasted 14years.. Btw. it is not about being perfect..no Jackie..it is about knowing, having the musical basics..
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Post by ChrisR on May 27, 2024 10:02:06 GMT -5
Calling an extreme fan "OTT" isn't an attack. It's an accurate description. Yep!
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Post by ChrisR on May 27, 2024 10:05:43 GMT -5
colt has been crazy gaslighted and doesn't realize it. Who cares if stupid people who don't like music don't know her. There are other good singers in the world that probably no one knows anything about. So, there are probably millions of people out there who like Jackie's style of singing who still know nothing about her.
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 10:25:00 GMT -5
Calling people stupid for liking other singers is so wrong on so many levels! Of course not many know Jackie, she sings music that doesn’t appeal to the masses!
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Post by donkey on May 27, 2024 10:49:43 GMT -5
Absolutely right. Everything that has gone wrong with Jackie's career is because of her parents. Everything that has gone right with her career is because of Jackie. This is not true..JE made the biggest mistake..her misconception she could have a career especially in her genre without putting any real effort into it..no formal training..nothing..she kind of wasted 14years.. Btw. it is not about being perfect..no Jackie..it is about knowing, having the musical basics.. Jackie did have some training, at least early on. But there are tons of successful pop and country singers who are not classically trained.
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Post by donkey on May 27, 2024 10:52:15 GMT -5
Then the deadheads in their psychedelic painted VW minibuses were all in need of professional help...not just a few of them. If there's something one enjoys more than most other things, and one can afford to and has no other limitations, so long as limitations on conduct are retained, that's IMO not necessarily crazy. Then again, I've only been to 30 or so. I figure going to every one might be nearly beyond supportive and approaching creepy, but that's part of my idea of limits. I remember when Lisa tore Uncle Len a new one when she spotted him at a football game taking pictures of Jackie and Mike an Rachel. I seem to recall that she thought this was borderline stalking behaviour on his part. This guy followed her to every event and I can’t blame Lisa for calling him out. I hadn't heard about that, but if it's true...that's stalking and completely inappropriate. Sound like unbridled OTT. When a fan crosses the line from attending events in an entertainer's professional life to physically following her in her personal life, the line has been crossed from fan to weirdo. Just ask Jackie. http://instagram.com/p/CmLBylWACCK Gotta respect those boundaries.
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Post by 1 Guest on May 27, 2024 11:23:34 GMT -5
I remember when Lisa tore Uncle Len a new one when she spotted him at a football game taking pictures of Jackie and Mike an Rachel. I seem to recall that she thought this was borderline stalking behaviour on his part. This guy followed her to every event and I can’t blame Lisa for calling him out. I hadn't heard about that, but if it's true...that's stalking and completely inappropriate. Sound like unbridled OTT. When a fan crosses the line from attending events in an entertainer's professional life to physically following her in her personal life, the line has been crossed from fan to weirdo. Just ask Jackie. http://instagram.com/p/CmLBylWACCK Gotta respect those boundaries. Well she wasn't just at the game as a fan, she was singing the National Anthem, so that was part of her professional life.
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Post by donkey on May 27, 2024 11:37:07 GMT -5
I hadn't heard about that, but if it's true...that's stalking and completely inappropriate. Sound like unbridled OTT. When a fan crosses the line from attending events in an entertainer's professional life to physically following her in her personal life, the line has been crossed from fan to weirdo. Just ask Jackie. http://instagram.com/p/CmLBylWACCK Gotta respect those boundaries. Well she wasn't just at the game as a fan, she was singing the National Anthem, so that was part of her professional life. Ahhhh...I figured they were at like a high school game or something. If they were at a professional football game, not so weird, especially if she was there to sing the anthem. Jackie was there professionally, and she was seeking publicity.
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Post by richard on May 27, 2024 11:59:43 GMT -5
While Jackie scheme to get her OTTs fans to pay for a trip to Italy. Kenzie and 5 of her girl friend are in Italy now for a short vacation. They all are posting vids of their visit to Italy on their social media sites. None of them are as old as Jackie but they seem fine with just the 6 of them going, they sure didn't bring any parents along. They are doing what they want when they want to do it. No silly following a group of people you don't know around. All these girls have at least a million followers on social media and their fans love to seeing them having fun with their friends. Jackie sure seems to miss out on a lot. These girls are single and it won't be many years where they will be able to do something like this. Once they get married it changes everything. http://instagram.com/p/C7aZHI5p3hw http://instagram.com/p/C7cx17avd5v
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Post by johnnyb on May 27, 2024 12:01:16 GMT -5
Well she wasn't just at the game as a fan, she was singing the National Anthem, so that was part of her professional life. Ahhhh...I figured they were at like a high school game or something. If they were at a professional football game, not so weird, especially if she was there to sing the anthem. Jackie was there professionally, and she was seeking publicity. Unfortunately this was hours before she was going to sing and would be labelled as private time for the Evancho’s. Lenny was following them around and taking pictures like there was no tomorrow. Jackie was still 12 years old at the time and Lisa had enough of these old men continuing to Stalk her every move. This is the time of Airport Joes shenanigans, Sempe Tereme(sp) and a host of other OTT’s in the penguin waddler group who’s behaviour was extremely bizarre and some might say threatening to Jackie well being.
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Post by amg1977 on May 27, 2024 12:43:54 GMT -5
Spotify streaming totals for BME update ... On 4/15, BME totals were: BME 2.0 18,000+ BME 57,000+ Combined 75,000+ On 4/27, BME 2.0 42,000+ BME 57,000+ Combined 99,000+ On 4/29, BME 2.0 54,000+ BME 2.0 58,000+ Combined 112,000+ On 5/1, BME 2.0 61,000+ BME 58,000+ Combined 119,000+ On 5/7, BME 2.0 78,000+ BME 59,000+ Combined 137,000+ On 5/13, BME 2.0 93,000+ BME 59,000+ Combined 152,000+ On 5/19, BME 2.0 105,000+ BME 60,000+ Combined 165,000+
On 5/26,
BME 2.0 122,000+
BME 61,000+
Combined 183,000+
We also now need to track "Get Out of My Life",
5/19 21,000+
5/26 40,000+
So she has two songs combining for 36,000+ Spotify streams in a week. BME's combined totals are already higher than anything on COT except "River," and will undoubtedly pass it weeks from now. Considering the latter had a two year head start and has the advantage of being a very popular song, that indicates to me a project like Solla was overdue. It looks like Jackie has a second song getting traction so she has something to build upon. She also seems to have a good working partnership with Greg Camp so hopefully that can continue.
The increase of monthly listeners also continues its upward climb: July 2023: 124,000+ August 2023: 118,000+ September 2023 117,000+ March 2024 105,000+ April 2024 110,000+ Two weeks ago 138,000+ One week ago 152,000+
Current 159,000+
It is certainly within the realm of possibility that Jackie could reach 200,000 monthly Spotify listeners. That is something few people would have predicted when her rebrand began. MP deserves some credit for pushing a BME remix to radio. It demonstrates they had were open to suggestions from input they received - probably along the lines of "we like this song except it needs a harder edge...". So good for them and Jackie for being willing to take the chance and suggestions to heart.
So I would call phase one of her relaunching a good start. Where I would go next is to take whatever dates she can get and in between begin working on new material that is more varied. Now that she seems a lot happier, maybe she can write something more upbeat with a hook and use some "oomph" to hit the hook hard. Then go on the road as an opener for a compatible artist. It doesn't have to be someone big. Just someone who has fans in the same type of music and this gives Jackie a shot at doing all new material and covers of songs she likes in the same genre.
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Post by Disappointed on May 27, 2024 13:00:47 GMT -5
Gotta respect those boundaries. Jackie was still 12 years old at the time and Lisa had enough of these old men continuing to Stalk her every move. This is the time of Airport Joes shenanigans, Sempe Tereme(sp) and a host of other OTT’s in the penguin waddler group who’s behaviour was extremely bizarre and some might say threatening to Jackie well being. Yes, it was sure a good thing that Lisa put her foot down with those weirdos and took steps to ban them from concerts and from following Jackie around. Not to mention getting a restraining order, etc. Oh wait, she didn't do that? They're still following her around to this day? Well well, I guess money really does talk.
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 13:09:09 GMT -5
Thank you amg1977 for doing the research on Jackie’s music!
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Post by BR549 on May 27, 2024 14:41:31 GMT -5
Ahhhh...I figured they were at like a high school game or something. If they were at a professional football game, not so weird, especially if she was there to sing the anthem. Jackie was there professionally, and she was seeking publicity. Unfortunately this was hours before she was going to sing and would be labelled as private time for the Evancho’s. Lenny was following them around and taking pictures like there was no tomorrow. Jackie was still 12 years old at the time and Lisa had enough of these old men continuing to Stalk her every move. This is the time of Airport Joes shenanigans, Sempe Tereme(sp) and a host of other OTT’s in the penguin waddler group who’s behaviour was extremely bizarre and some might say threatening to Jackie well being. You must be losing your mind. Might want to put down that wine bottle. When this episode with Len happened, when Jackie sang the national anthem at the Steelers game, it was December 2015. Jackie was four months shy of her 16th birthday. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_EvanchoIn October 2015, Evancho performed at a benefit for the Global Lyme Alliance in New York City.[296] In December, she sang the US national anthem at the Pittsburgh Steelers game against the Indianapolis Colts[297] and released the first single on her own JE Touring label, a cover of Taylor Swift's "Safe & Sound",[298] together with a video. And in spite of Lisa's treatment of Len and Airport Joe, you can bet they will both be at 54 Below in June, probably for both nights (unless one night gets canceled like last time). The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old.
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Post by ChrisR on May 27, 2024 14:45:24 GMT -5
BR549 Guest: The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old. They shouldn't have acted so childish in the first place.
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