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Post by BR549 on May 27, 2024 14:52:29 GMT -5
BR549 Guest: The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old. They shouldn't have acted so childish in the first place. You still rooting for the Bruins?
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Post by BR549 on May 27, 2024 15:03:29 GMT -5
Please post a video of the penguin waddlers so we can all laugh at their childish behavior.
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 15:13:51 GMT -5
Unfortunately this was hours before she was going to sing and would be labelled as private time for the Evancho’s. Lenny was following them around and taking pictures like there was no tomorrow. Jackie was still 12 years old at the time and Lisa had enough of these old men continuing to Stalk her every move. This is the time of Airport Joes shenanigans, Sempe Tereme(sp) and a host of other OTT’s in the penguin waddler group who’s behaviour was extremely bizarre and some might say threatening to Jackie well being. You must be losing your mind. Might want to put down that wine bottle. When this episode with Len happened, when Jackie sang the national anthem at the Steelers game, it was December 2015. Jackie was four months shy of her 16th birthday. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_EvanchoIn October 2015, Evancho performed at a benefit for the Global Lyme Alliance in New York City.[296] In December, she sang the US national anthem at the Pittsburgh Steelers game against the Indianapolis Colts[297] and released the first single on her own JE Touring label, a cover of Taylor Swift's "Safe & Sound",[298] together with a video. And in spite of Lisa's treatment of Len and Airport Joe, you can bet they will both be at 54 Below in June, probably for both nights (unless one night gets canceled like last time). The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old. Len and Joe will be attending both nights. Cant bring facts into a gaslighting forum. Lisa was no longer involved in her career as of 2015, so that could have lead to some of the issues at that time. She did not deter Len thankfully. I wonder what Rickky and amg has to say about the case of: alt pop singer Lorde: her initial 5x platinum debut US tour was in theaters, then her platinum follow up US tour was in arenas (half as many shows though), then her follow up tour had even fewer shows and was back in smaller venues. Thats within a span of less than a decade.
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 15:16:40 GMT -5
BR559, that was years ago when Jackie wis just a kid that there were a few fans did that ,some here like to bring it up because they can’t let go of the past!
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Post by BR549 on May 27, 2024 15:18:53 GMT -5
BR559, that was years ago when Jackie wis just a kid that there were fans that did that ,some here like to bring it up because they can’t let go of the past! Tell that to johnnyb, who brought up Jackie's age in the first place (and got it wrong).
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 15:21:52 GMT -5
Like I said some here can’t let the past go to make Jackie fans look bad, like no other performer didn’t have their share of nut jobs!
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Post by BR549 on May 27, 2024 15:25:55 GMT -5
Schizophrenia
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 15:36:49 GMT -5
You can't accuse others of living in the past when you bring up something that happened back in the summer of 2011, after her 20/20 interview. Also I doubt Len or Joe were involved in that, im sure its fans who have likely passed on by now.
Its also hypocritical because you wants other including fans and media to move past the image of the young girl, of course Jackie would like that too but you're bringing up little girl Jackie stories.
Its that hypocrisy which undermines and doesn't help the credibility.
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 15:48:57 GMT -5
Stop posting as a guest, are you afraid 😱 to join this forum in full force, that goes for you to disappointed !
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Post by 1 Guest on May 27, 2024 15:54:03 GMT -5
BR549 Guest: The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old. They shouldn't have acted so childish in the first place. That's right, they shouldn't have done that in the first place, and they only stopped because of the ridicule they faced.
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Post by Disappointed on May 27, 2024 15:55:30 GMT -5
Stop posting as a guest, are you afraid 😱 to join this forum in full force, that goes for you to disappointed ! Since you're a registered member and I'm living inside your head, technically I am also a registered member.
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Post by BOGC on May 27, 2024 15:56:41 GMT -5
This is not true..JE made the biggest mistake..her misconception she could have a career especially in her genre without putting any real effort into it..no formal training..nothing..she kind of wasted 14years.. Btw. it is not about being perfect..no Jackie..it is about knowing, having the musical basics.. Jackie did have some training, at least early on. But there are tons of successful pop and country singers who are not classically trained. Certain views of training do not imagine anything less than formal matriculation at some high-status institution of higher learning. That credential obsession goes back to generations past, subjects of monarchs rather than free citizens. It's obsolete in a day when people teach themselves using online web sites and videos, and the mindset was obsolete decades before that. There are certainly successful people that have never had formal training. There are also plenty of successful non-classical singers and musicians that HAVE had it, including many that one would not guess. Is it an advantage when performing? Not necessarily. Is it an advantage when writing? Probably, in that one would know more of the theoretical background, why "hooks" are what they are and how they work, enough to do some of one's own arranging as well as just writing the basic lyrics and melody, etc. Not saying that Jackie couldn't benefit slightly from some coaching in enunciation and phrasing, getting more out of a breath more effectively, etc. But 99% of listeners would never know the difference. And she seems to have some mental blocks in some areas, probably never found a teacher that knew multiple methods to teach certain subjects and could use the one (or synthesize from them a new one) that best worked for her.
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Post by colt46 on May 27, 2024 16:22:20 GMT -5
You need to feel comfortable with a teacher and Jackie probably never felt comfortable with any ! Remember when Jackie was making dream with me it showed Jackie getting some instruction! There is two videos a short one and a longer version that shows the making of dream with me ! It showed Jackie getting some instruction!
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 16:25:57 GMT -5
They shouldn't have acted so childish in the first place. That's right, they shouldn't have done that in the first place, and they only stopped because of the ridicule they faced. The penguin waddling was not such a big deal. But it really sucked when that same group became a distraction while sitting in the front row at concerts. Sure, those guys looked silly waddling, but they were mostly old guys who enjoyed recapturing some of their youth vicariously through Jackie. I met many of those guys individually, and for the most part, were likable and harmless. Those guys crossed a line when they would all sit next to each other in the front row at concerts and became a huge distraction for audiences and for Jackie when she was trying to connect with the crowd. They would yell at Jackie between songs, and they would be the only fans giving Jackie a standing O after EVERY song. They acted as though they were at a sporting event. Their behavior led to Mike and Jackie to having major issues with fans, and the tragedy about that is all fans got painted with the same broad brush. When I had the opportunity to attend concerts, I purposely sat far away from that group in order not to be associated with them. Another annoying behavior of that group is that they acted as though they were the "approved" Jackie fan group and carried a chip on their shoulders as though they had some special kind of privilege by having the inside track with the Evanchos. Individually, they were mostly decent guys, but as a group, they embarrassed themselves as well as the Jackie fandom in general.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 16:55:23 GMT -5
You must be losing your mind. Might want to put down that wine bottle. When this episode with Len happened, when Jackie sang the national anthem at the Steelers game, it was December 2015. Jackie was four months shy of her 16th birthday. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_EvanchoIn October 2015, Evancho performed at a benefit for the Global Lyme Alliance in New York City.[296] In December, she sang the US national anthem at the Pittsburgh Steelers game against the Indianapolis Colts[297] and released the first single on her own JE Touring label, a cover of Taylor Swift's "Safe & Sound",[298] together with a video. And in spite of Lisa's treatment of Len and Airport Joe, you can bet they will both be at 54 Below in June, probably for both nights (unless one night gets canceled like last time). The penguin waddling lasted only a few months and had stopped when Jackie was still 11 years old. Len and Joe will be attending both nights. Cant bring facts into a gaslighting forum. Lisa was no longer involved in her career as of 2015, so that could have lead to some of the issues at that time. She did not deter Len thankfully. I wonder what Rickky and amg has to say about the case of: alt pop singer Lorde: her initial 5x platinum debut US tour was in theaters, then her platinum follow up US tour was in arenas (half as many shows though), then her follow up tour had even fewer shows and was back in smaller venues. Thats within a span of less than a decade. It would be great if you brought facts into the truth telling forum. Lisa was involved with Jackie's career at least through through the later half of 2017. I know she was involved in 2016 because I had direct communication with her in her forum after capturing some video at a concert. She stayed involved into 2017 as "Growing Up Evancho" took place near the end of 2017. The forum was still alive at that time and Lisa was actively promoting a shift in Jackie's style. In 2017, after Jackie recorded "Safe and Sound" and "Writing's On the Wall", Lisa posted those videos into the forum. Lisa was trying to widen Jackie's target market away from the old fan base that she disliked and to acquire younger pop fans. She hinted as much in the forum.
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