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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 13:47:49 GMT -5
Jackie said the same thing awhile back that she can't get venues because of her low social media numbers.
I think Jackie has stated in a couple of interviews now that she found out too late just how important social media is now.
She's certainly been working it lately. Even if she doesn't post pictures partying with other celebs her own age, which IMO is not a guaranteed marketing gimmick by any means (although more focused cross-promotion might be useful, and I think she's trying). She has been working hard lately, esp. on keeping up with social media posts. Now, if she could just get better at updating her concerts schedule on the website.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 2, 2024 13:54:59 GMT -5
all people (yes, even Jackie, although she's closer than most) are imperfect. And with large numbers, half are on the low side of the bell curve. So they don't know what they're missing, and are probably too imperfect to care. You have my deepest sympathy. I, too, understand how it feels to be condemned to live in a world of lesser mortals.
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Post by BOGC on Jun 2, 2024 14:18:45 GMT -5
all people (yes, even Jackie, although she's closer than most) are imperfect. And with large numbers, half are on the low side of the bell curve. So they don't know what they're missing, and are probably too imperfect to care. You have my deepest sympathy. I, too, understand how it feels to be condemned to live in a world of lesser mortals. You are very effective concealing that you are among us Great Ones. Most of the time, anyway. So you're in the covert ops section of the G.O.'s? Now I'm worried.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 2, 2024 14:21:12 GMT -5
I strongly suspect that Jackie is doing the best she can. But she is not getting the concert offers she wants. Forget concert dates, she having a hard enough time selling tickets for a two night show in a bar. 😕 I have long expressed my opinion that the likeliest future for Jackie is a cabaret singer, like a Bobby Short. But if it turns out that she has trouble selling tickets at 54 Below, then I may be mistaken.
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 2, 2024 14:24:02 GMT -5
I strongly suspect that Jackie is doing the best she can. But she is not getting the concert offers she wants. Forget concert dates, she having a hard enough time selling tickets for a two night show in a bar. 😕 Well, if she would take my advice and flip some burgers there to give away with a ticket, things might be different. A free burger goes a long ways!
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Post by donkey on Jun 2, 2024 14:26:54 GMT -5
Forget concert dates, she having a hard enough time selling tickets for a two night show in a bar. 😕 I have long expressed my opinion that the likeliest future for Jackie is a cabaret singer, like a Bobby Short. But if it turns out that she has trouble selling tickets at 54 Below, then I may be mistaken. I wonder if she'll do that Cafe Carlyle in NYC again.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 2, 2024 14:28:42 GMT -5
Now, if she could just get better at updating her concerts schedule on the website. Yes, Spring TX is still on her website. And Stony Brook NY is not. Surely updating a website is not rocket science.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 2, 2024 14:30:24 GMT -5
I wonder if she'll do that Cafe Carlyle in NYC again. I suspect that will depend on what happens at 54 Below.
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Post by BOGC on Jun 2, 2024 14:37:12 GMT -5
Forget concert dates, she having a hard enough time selling tickets for a two night show in a bar. 😕 I have long expressed my opinion that the likeliest future for Jackie is a cabaret singer, like a Bobby Short. But if it turns out that she has trouble selling tickets at 54 Below, then I may be mistaken. Given that she's proven that she can do a variety of styles WITHOUT all sounding the same anymore, there is some market for variety singers (typically for events rather than regular concerts - and I see some advertised, so definitely a market), or variety shows, which may include a comedian, juggler, ventriloquist, or other entertainment as well; they would provide both breaks and separation of segments in separate genres, and the other entertainer's parts could serve as a segue between segments. Both require some other people unless a backing track is used in place of all instrumentalists (which for anything beyond an upscale shopping mall appearance is cheesy); and even then, an audio engineer is needed, unless the venue/event provides one. That works for live events, not for streaming of itself. But assuming some even partial fan videos are allowed, it may be able to promote streaming in multiple genres. I think that's an opportunity that few could do as well, esp. if she got just a bit more comfortable with the patter. That can be done by writing her own out in advance (so she's satisfied with what she has to say rather than speaking someone else's words) with fill-in-the-blank locale/venue/co-performer specific bits, reviewing it, and sticking to it rather than improvising, which done well is never as spontaneous as it looks anyway. Something better than notes taped to the floor would be good, like a stand, but one that isn't a visual obstacle. A hidden TelePrompter would be ideal, but not every venue has those.
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Post by colt46 on Jun 2, 2024 14:50:42 GMT -5
I still think Jackie can have a career were she does concerts at venues, she is re inventing herself and she is working on future concerts! I never said it would be easy for her! She has a big albatross around her neck and that is dear old dad, she is loyal to him and doesn’t want to hurt him ! I think in order to put butts in seats at 54 and below cut the prices drastically, maybe someone will think who in the heck is Jackie Evancho but a couple could have a nice dinner see a show and just maybe say you know what this Jackie person isn’t half badI think I will check her out on the Internet!
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 2, 2024 14:58:03 GMT -5
I have long expressed my opinion that the likeliest future for Jackie is a cabaret singer, like a Bobby Short. But if it turns out that she has trouble selling tickets at 54 Below, then I may be mistaken. I wonder if she'll do that Cafe Carlyle in NYC again. I wonder if she’ll have to start busking in the street like Karolina Protsenko does, seems to rake in a lot of cash.
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Post by richard on Jun 2, 2024 15:05:13 GMT -5
I still think Jackie can have a career were she does concerts at venues, she is re inventing herself and she is working on future concerts! I never said it would be easy for her! She has a big albatross around her neck and that is dear old dad, she is loyal to him and doesn’t want to hurt him ! I think in order to put butts in seats at 54 and below cut the prices drastically, maybe someone will think who in the heck is Jackie Evancho but a couple could have a nice dinner see a show and just maybe say you know what this Jackie person isn’t half badI think I will check her out on the Internet! Even if everyone at 54 below joined Jackie's instagram page it wouldn't make any difference. Jackie needs to do something that can gain her about 900,000 more followers, to even be at the low point where she is noticed commercially.
So far Jackie hasn't even made up the losses since she posted BME.
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Post by BOGC on Jun 2, 2024 15:58:13 GMT -5
I still think Jackie can have a career were she does concerts at venues, she is re inventing herself and she is working on future concerts! I never said it would be easy for her! She has a big albatross around her neck and that is dear old dad, she is loyal to him and doesn’t want to hurt him ! I think in order to put butts in seats at 54 and below cut the prices drastically, maybe someone will think who in the heck is Jackie Evancho but a couple could have a nice dinner see a show and just maybe say you know what this Jackie person isn’t half badI think I will check her out on the Internet! Even if everyone at 54 below joined Jackie's instagram page it wouldn't make any difference. Jackie needs to do something that can gain her about 900,000 more followers, to even be at the low point where she is noticed commercially.
So far Jackie hasn't even made up the losses since she posted BME.
That takes guesting at multiple major events or TV specials, or something like that. Social media cannot bootstrap social media attention to that degree, IMO. At least not quickly. Not unless there's a magic formula for getting nearly everyone to hit "share" on a lot of posts. Nobody pays me to advertise for them; I'll sooner hit "share" for either Jackie or for something I think might be of value to the relatively few followers I have (or want) than I will for other entertainers or for most non-factual topics where opinions would be very divided. But I won't do it for everything even by Jackie, people would get tired of that. It's cute to like a performer, but to look like a Deadhead living in their minibus off to the next event is creepy. And unsanitary.
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Post by amg1977 on Jun 2, 2024 16:39:22 GMT -5
Grace posted a cover of Etta James' "All I Could Do Was Cry":
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Post by richard on Jun 2, 2024 17:33:43 GMT -5
Even if everyone at 54 below joined Jackie's instagram page it wouldn't make any difference. Jackie needs to do something that can gain her about 900,000 more followers, to even be at the low point where she is noticed commercially.
So far Jackie hasn't even made up the losses since she posted BME.
That takes guesting at multiple major events or TV specials, or something like that. Social media cannot bootstrap social media attention to that degree, IMO. At least not quickly. Not unless there's a magic formula for getting nearly everyone to hit "share" on a lot of posts. Nobody pays me to advertise for them; I'll sooner hit "share" for either Jackie or for something I think might be of value to the relatively few followers I have (or want) than I will for other entertainers or for most non-factual topics where opinions would be very divided. But I won't do it for everything even by Jackie, people would get tired of that. It's cute to like a performer, but to look like a Deadhead living in their minibus off to the next event is creepy. And unsanitary. No it is not hard to gain 900,000 instagram followers if you are talent enough. This is what a good gain in followers should look like. So is Jackie just doing everything wrong and this girl (not even a singer) just doing everything right that can gain more followers in one day than Jackie has made in 14 years. Edit: Sorry that is 10 times more new follower in one day than Jackie made in 14 years.
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