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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 11:58:58 GMT -5
Oh dear, still 72 unsold tickets for the 28th and 64 unsold tickets for the 29th. Just over half full each night. But not to worry, according to Simsy, people will show up in droves 5 minutes before showtime on both nights, climbing over each other to get those last minute tickets. How do you determine the number of unsold tickets? As far as I know there is no seat map. I have tried requesting to buy tickets but it seems that the max request is 9 per order. So if the number of unsold tickets in a section is more than 9, the number of unsold tickets in that section is not disclosed. You have to request a large number of tickets in each section, then add them up. When you type, say 40 in each of the sections, like Ringside, Bar, Main Dining Room, etc, it will give you the number available in each section because your order exceeds the maximum available. The max of 9 you are getting is only for those discounted seats. 68 still available for the 28th 63 still available for the 29th
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 12:05:01 GMT -5
Ahhh...but then dont call it an album. I looked it up. Even a single can go platinum. Call it an EP if you prefer. But it still went platinum. It appears that the number of songs/tracks doesn't define whether or not it went platinum...that is defined by the number of units sold. This is merely a discussion on what in fact went platinum. Was it a single? Was it an album? Was it an EP. That's just quibbling. It still went platinum, whichever category of units it falls under. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Jackie ever claimed to be a platinum album selling artist, or has she just said she is a platinum selling artist...which would be accurate? Her 54 Below ad says this: "America's Got Talent star Jackie Evancho is taking audiences through her musical journey! From her time as a 10-year-old phenom to becoming a chart-topping platinum selling artist, hear the memorable stories and songs that have made her the star that she is today in this beautiful, intimate night out." On Wikipedia, it refers to a platinum selling EP, not album. "Since 2009, she has issued nine albums, a platinum-selling EP and two further EPs; three of her discs debuted in the top 10 on the Billboard 200." I never said that Jackie claimed that she had a Platinum album, and of course Wiki called it a Platinum EP because that's what it is. You're the one who asked why should it matter how many songs are on an album. Donkey is deflecting the issue again, as usual. The issue is not how many songs there were, the issue is that it was bundled with a highly popular and sought after DVD of all of her AGT appearances, which most of the public did not see on TV and they wanted to see what the big media fuss was about. Which was the main reason they bought it. So the number of copies sold was mainly due to that DVD being included, not the little 4 song Christmas EP. If the EP would have sold over a million ON ITS OWN, I would have no issue with it, but it didn't and never would have. Far from it. So the bragging that continues to this day about her being this big platinum recording artist and besting Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder for youngest top 10 debut, or whatever, was nothing but a big farce.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 22, 2024 12:52:50 GMT -5
I never said that Jackie claimed that she had a Platinum album, and of course Wiki called it a Platinum EP because that's what it is. You're the one who asked why should it matter how many songs are on an album. Donkey is deflecting the issue again, as usual. The issue is not how many songs there were, the issue is that it was bundled with a highly popular and sought after DVD of all of her AGT appearances, which most of the public did not see on TV and they wanted to see what the big media fuss was about. Which was the main reason they bought it. So the number of copies sold was mainly due to that DVD being included, not the little 4 song Christmas EP. If the EP would have sold over a million ON ITS OWN, I would have no issue with it, but it didn't and never would have. Far from it. So the bragging that continues to this day about her being this big platinum recording artist and besting Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder for youngest top 10 debut, or whatever, was nothing but a big farce. On the other hand, the DVD could have been a turnoff for some. My Aunt and Uncle saw it as they were checking out at a store and picked it up. They were disappointed since it only had 4 songs and they didn't have a DVD player, but it was probably their fault, they should have looked at it more closely. Surely the cover specified what it was.
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 12:53:25 GMT -5
Ahhh...but then dont call it an album. I looked it up. Even a single can go platinum. Call it an EP if you prefer. But it still went platinum. It appears that the number of songs/tracks doesn't define whether or not it went platinum...that is defined by the number of units sold. This is merely a discussion on what in fact went platinum. Was it a single? Was it an album? Was it an EP. That's just quibbling. It still went platinum, whichever category of units it falls under. Correct me if I'm wrong, but has Jackie ever claimed to be a platinum album selling artist, or has she just said she is a platinum selling artist...which would be accurate? Her 54 Below ad says this: "America's Got Talent star Jackie Evancho is taking audiences through her musical journey! From her time as a 10-year-old phenom to becoming a chart-topping platinum selling artist, hear the memorable stories and songs that have made her the star that she is today in this beautiful, intimate night out." On Wikipedia, it refers to a platinum selling EP, not album. "Since 2009, she has issued nine albums, a platinum-selling EP and two further EPs; three of her discs debuted in the top 10 on the Billboard 200." I never said that Jackie claimed that she had a Platinum album, and of course Wiki called it a Platinum EP because that's what it is. You're the one who asked why should it matter how many songs are on an album. The definition of an album vs an EP vs a single is irrelevant to the discussion as how many units were sold and if that quantity qualifies as platinum level of sales.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 22, 2024 12:57:45 GMT -5
I never said that Jackie claimed that she had a Platinum album, and of course Wiki called it a Platinum EP because that's what it is. You're the one who asked why should it matter how many songs are on an album. The definition of an album vs an EP vs a single is irrelevant to the discussion as how many units were sold and if that quantity qualifies as platinum level of sales. I get it, but some still refer to it as a Platinum album. Colty just did. lol jackie-amazon.proboards.com/post/88003/thread
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 12:59:45 GMT -5
I never said that Jackie claimed that she had a Platinum album, and of course Wiki called it a Platinum EP because that's what it is. You're the one who asked why should it matter how many songs are on an album. Donkey is deflecting the issue again, as usual. The issue is not how many songs there were, the issue is that it was bundled with a highly popular and sought after DVD of all of her AGT appearances, which most of the public did not see on TV and they wanted to see what the big media fuss was about. Which was the main reason they bought it. So the number of copies sold was mainly due to that DVD being included, not the little 4 song Christmas EP. If the EP would have sold over a million ON ITS OWN, I would have no issue with it, but it didn't and never would have. Far from it. So the bragging that continues to this day about her being this big platinum recording artist and besting Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder for youngest top 10 debut, or whatever, was nothing but a big farce. lol..except you are the one who deflected, and I found that interesting, away from the DVD and towards the, "it wasnt a full album" argument. I already shot down the DVD argument, which is why I suspect you did that. Now that I've shot down the "it wasn't a full album" argument, you have gone back to the DVD argument. I'll say it again...the DVD had Jackie's music on it...its a DVD of her singing. If that was the reason for the platinum sales in your mind..fine...but even in that case, her singing sold a platinum number of units of DVDS of her singing. LoL..no matter how much you try, you still fail to take away her platinum sales level of her music. ROFL And no, people didnt want the DVD so they could "see what the fuss was about". They loved Jackie's singing on tvl and wanted to own the material. You don't buy a dvd because you are curious to watch something, you take the step to buy a dvd because you saw something you really liked and want to own it.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 22, 2024 13:10:08 GMT -5
You have to request a large number of tickets in each section, then add them up. When you type, say 40 in each of the sections, like Ringside, Bar, Main Dining Room, etc, it will give you the number available in each section because your order exceeds the maximum available. The max of 9 you are getting is only for those discounted seats. 68 still available for the 28th 63 still available for the 29th Thanks, that was very useful! I requested 40 seats in each section for each day and got this: Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Side View Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Bar Seating' only has 5 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Bar Rail Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Main Dining Room' only has 31 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - VIP Seating' only has 6 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Second Row Ringside' only has 11 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Ringside Seating' only has 7 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Premium Seating' only has 13 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Side View Seating' only has 8 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Bar Seating' only has 5 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Bar Rail Seating' only has 2 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Main Dining Room' only has 27 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - VIP Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Second Row Ringside' only has 9 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Ringside Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Premium Seating' only has 10 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. When I add up the number of available seats, it is 75 on Fri and 63 on Sat.
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 13:12:54 GMT -5
Wait, the EP came with a dvd with a mere 15 minutes of Jackie singing on AGT clips? ROFL I just looked it up...I thought it came with a DVD of her first PBS Special or something substantial like that, but 15 minutes of AGT highlights? That's your argument as why people bought her cd? Okay, that's just dumb.
"Boy, I don't want the music, but man do I want those 15 minutes of AGT highlights." Hahahahahahaha
"The album includes a two-disc set: a CD with four recorded tracks and a DVD with 12 minutes of footage of Evancho's performances and America's Got Talent appearances"
Sour grapes Disappointed...that's all this is. You have no case to make. lol
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 13:18:39 GMT -5
except you are the one who deflected, and I found that interesting, away from the DVD and towards the, "it wasnt a full album" argument. No, I just mentioned you can't compare it to full length albums FROM THE PAST because that's what it always has been compared to. As well as the comparisons to youngest platinum selling artists who ALL had full length albums. So it is basically a way to attempt to fool the public into thinking they are the same thing. You don't buy a dvd because you are curious to watch something You do if there is massive media hype about some talent show appearances that you never saw and want to see what the deal is. That DVD could have been sold separately but wasn't because that wouldn't have perpetrated the fraud. People are sheep, and will by anything that is massively hyped. Even if they will throw it in the corner shortly after. But has I said, the truth prevails and the half empty seats at little clubs or wineries prove that.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 22, 2024 13:27:56 GMT -5
Colt is correct. In the RIAA Gold & Platinum certification program, there are two kinds of albums "Shortform Album/EP" and "Full-Length Album". OHN is a Platinum album of the former kind. www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/about-awards/
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 13:28:09 GMT -5
You have to request a large number of tickets in each section, then add them up. When you type, say 40 in each of the sections, like Ringside, Bar, Main Dining Room, etc, it will give you the number available in each section because your order exceeds the maximum available. The max of 9 you are getting is only for those discounted seats. 68 still available for the 28th 63 still available for the 29th Thanks, that was very useful! I requested 40 seats in each section for each day and got this: Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Side View Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Bar Seating' only has 5 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Bar Rail Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Main Dining Room' only has 31 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - VIP Seating' only has 6 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Second Row Ringside' only has 11 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Ringside Seating' only has 7 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Friday, June 28 at 7pm - Premium Seating' only has 13 seats available. You requested 39. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Side View Seating' only has 8 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Bar Seating' only has 5 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Bar Rail Seating' only has 2 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Main Dining Room' only has 27 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - VIP Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Second Row Ringside' only has 9 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Ringside Seating' only has 1 seat available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. Insufficient retail quantity. Ticket Allocation 'Jackie Evancho: My Story - Saturday, June 29 at 7pm - Premium Seating' only has 10 seats available. You requested 40. Please decrease the number of seats requested. When I add up the number of available seats, it is 75 on Fri and 63 on Sat. Oops, I guess I was in a hurry and skipped Ringside on the first night, so that is an extra 7. That makes it even worse.
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 13:30:27 GMT -5
Wait, the EP came with a dvd with a mere 15 minutes of Jackie singing on AGT clips? ROFL I just looked it up...I thought it came with a DVD of her first PBS Special or something substantial like that, but 15 minutes of AGT highlights? That's your argument as why people bought her cd? Okay, that's just dumb. "Boy, I don't want the music, but man do I want those 15 minutes of AGT highlights." Hahahahahahaha "The album includes a two-disc set: a CD with four recorded tracks and a DVD with 12 minutes of footage of Evancho's performances and America's Got Talent appearances"Sour grapes Disappointed...that's all this is. You have no case to make. lol The DVD was promoted as a big selling point on ads, QVC, Oprah etc. Like "and you can see all of her AGT performances on one DVD. WOWEEEE!!! See what started it all!" Yep, the DVD was a big factor, whether you want to admit it or not.
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 13:52:35 GMT -5
Wait, the EP came with a dvd with a mere 15 minutes of Jackie singing on AGT clips? ROFL I just looked it up...I thought it came with a DVD of her first PBS Special or something substantial like that, but 15 minutes of AGT highlights? That's your argument as why people bought her cd? Okay, that's just dumb. "Boy, I don't want the music, but man do I want those 15 minutes of AGT highlights." Hahahahahahaha "The album includes a two-disc set: a CD with four recorded tracks and a DVD with 12 minutes of footage of Evancho's performances and America's Got Talent appearances"Sour grapes Disappointed...that's all this is. You have no case to make. lol The DVD was promoted as a big selling point on ads, QVC, Oprah etc. Like "and you can see all of her AGT performances on one DVD. WOWEEEE!!! See what started it all!" Yep, the DVD was a big factor, whether you want to admit it or not. LOL...yeah, people bought a cd they didn't want so that they could watch 15 minutes of clips of the singer whose music they don't want. That makes sense. Hahahahaha That sort of extremely short dvd is to give people a little bonus about Jackie to go along with the cd, it's not something that people who didnt want the cd would pay for so that they could get the 15 minutes of clips. Come on Disappointed, you should be embarrassed trying to push something so dumb? lol "Hey honey, should I order the Jackie Evancho cd?" "Naw, I don't much care for her." "But if comes with fifteen minutes of Jackie singing highlights..." "Oh, why didn't you say so. Order it immediately!"
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Post by colt46 on Jun 22, 2024 15:12:19 GMT -5
As Mr Spok would say , Disappointed’s argument doesn’t hold any logic !
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Post by colt46 on Jun 22, 2024 15:17:39 GMT -5
So disappointed a person would not buy the package 📦 if they didn’t like Jackie’s voice period end of story, if anyone else but Jackie had done ✅ this you would not have had a problem with it! Your problem is that you don’t like Jackie!
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