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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 21:25:43 GMT -5
The world 🌍 could be on fire 🔥 and Disappointed would be complaining about Jackie receiving platinum status! And you'd be complaining about Disappointed complaining. And you'd very possibly be complaining about Colt complaining about Disappointed complaining. Ahhhh...the circle of life. lol
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Post by msims on Jun 22, 2024 21:30:37 GMT -5
They were probably sent out when the CD was released and got buried in a stock room somewhere. The good news is that since they weren't returned, they already counted towards the sales. So if some OTT somewhere decides to buy them to increase her sales, that won't happen. They were counted as units shipped. OHN SOLD 1.2m in the Us and 80k in canada, platinum in both countries. This is the canadian: So they could have been sent back to the label or distributor and they then decided to unload them at a Goodwill or something. These convos are repetitive and continue on and on with no point. No one has a point and nobody knows what their talking about. The core of Caz-a-Karen's issue is the bundling but the RIAA counts bundling in their criteria. All one has to do is quote the criteria instead its donkey's salesman gimmick in numerous posts and no Admin or mod stepping in to squash it with what I just wrote. Artists have bundled dvds, tickets, merc along with their albums and have been doing so to get a chart placement for years and even Foster's produced Bocelli album did that years prior to OHN, as well as Bocelli's christmas album that came out in 09. Christmas albums by CC artists and traditional pop artists are very popular especially at the time and it did extremely well. Jackie's been singing professionally for 13 years+ and shes one of the most successful women in her 20's in the music business with over 3 million units sold. Women who are successful tend to have more haters than men and especially by women but to not let it go after this many years is crazy and no one wants to say its crazy, they act like its normal.
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Post by colt46 on Jun 22, 2024 21:35:49 GMT -5
1 Guest you know what you can do !
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 21:42:23 GMT -5
LOL...yeah, people bought a cd they didn't want so that they could watch 15 minutes of clips of the singer whose music they don't want. That makes sense. They weren't "clips". They were all of the AGT performances, which is what the media bragged up and parts were shown on the news all over. Your theory makes even less sense, that all those people only bought it to hear 4 Christmas songs that everyone has heard hundreds of times by hundreds of performers. "Hey honey, there's an EP with a 10 year old girl singing 4 Christmas songs." "OMG, buy it right away! I've never heard those songs before."
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 22, 2024 21:46:50 GMT -5
She'd better sell it! It's a week before the shows and both nights are half empty. Maybe some twerking would help get the old codgers interested!
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 21:58:43 GMT -5
LOL...yeah, people bought a cd they didn't want so that they could watch 15 minutes of clips of the singer whose music they don't want. That makes sense. They weren't "clips". They were all of the AGT performances, which is what the media bragged up and parts were shown on the news all over. Your theory makes even less sense, that all those people only bought it to hear 4 Christmas songs that everyone has heard hundreds of times by hundreds of performers. "Hey honey, there's an EP with a 10 year old girl singing 4 Christmas songs." "OMG, buy it right away! I've never heard those songs before." Your right...it makes much more sense that they ordered a cd they don't want so they could watch the singer they dont have an interest in singing on AGT. ROFL
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Post by msims on Jun 22, 2024 21:59:54 GMT -5
It officially went platinum That's why the big "chart topping platinum recording artist" can only fill a New York City club of 147 seats HALF FULL In advance. Its what is sold up until she hits the stage, thats what no one seems to get. NYC will have walk ups. Planting seeds of doubt and fear is manipulative trolling that seems to only work on the phony. You could have spent today which is sweden midsummer frolicking but instead you spent the day trolling with bs. How do you explain Jackie’s gold record Disappointed or are you going to begrudge her that too ? You are something Disappointed you spend every waking moment complaining about Jackie’s Platinum album 💿!. You know very well I've never questioned the gold album status. But you also know that only happened due to the big media frenzy and Foster cashing in on the circus act and pumping it up. But the circus left town long ago, Colty, and it's never coming back. NEVER. WTFC. Who paid for all that? It was the platinum EP.
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Post by richard on Jun 22, 2024 22:00:49 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what type of shenanigans they pulled to get that platinum title, The Evancho's didn't see any money from it and that is according to Lisa. That also is the reason Jackie had to start doing concerts because they weren't getting anything from CD sales.
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Post by donkey on Jun 22, 2024 22:00:53 GMT -5
She'd better sell it! It's a week before the shows and both nights are half empty. Maybe some twerking would help get the old codgers interested! Jackie's press office has released a response to your suggestion.
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Post by msims on Jun 22, 2024 22:06:31 GMT -5
Doesn't matter what type of shenanigans they pulled to git that platinum title, The Evancho didn't see any money from it You people write BS all day and night. The Evancho's saw it in the form of PROMOTION including that pbs special which would have cost a bundle for the label. How else do you think it sold the way it did? Just her first two Sony releases did over 2 million in units and Heavenly Christmas also went gold. So thats 2.8m from 2010-2011 plus 200k+ for SS. 3m. But yet there are early morning posts by colt that you like, where its her management's fault she is " unknown". Classical Crossover is a sub genre, its either love it or hate it theres few in between. Alot of people don't want to hear opera/pop kind of music. Thats not a management issue. Its also not a fault of management that there are people who prefer hillbilly country rap over CC. So colt you don't have a point. It also costs millions to promote and make artists, so when she sold a lot of OHN that helped DWM.
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Post by Anastasia Lee on Jun 22, 2024 22:35:54 GMT -5
Unfortunately i know how it works and they were considered units sold. My uncles used to work for Handleman Company and another group I forget from about 1968-199? And yeah… they used to tell loads of stories of the biggest name musicians you can imagine getting their albums and records shipped to warehouses - counting as sales - and for them to be destroyed a few years to decades later. It’s a bummer but that’s the industry. It’s how it works in the US. I don’t know about other countries.
I did have someone sent me screenshots of someone in here’s comments comparing Jackie to me and that’s way off. Lol. She’s definitely doing better than I am. Honestly she should check out Ekaterina Shelehova. I know her and we recorded a duet together before she made it big online. Ekaterina is amazing at promo.
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Post by msims on Jun 22, 2024 22:43:55 GMT -5
I did have someone sent me screenshots of someone in here’s comments comparing Jackie to me and that’s way off. Lol. She’s definitely doing better than I am. Honestly she should check out Ekaterina Shelehova. I know her and we recorded a duet together before she made it big online. Ekaterina is amazing at promo. They have always been way off and they just want others to be as dumb as them.
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Post by msims on Jun 22, 2024 23:13:54 GMT -5
There are alot of people with over 100k followers. Why does it matter? That doesn't mean their talented. Because talent doesn't pay the bills, popularity does. Thats more word salad. The only three successful recording and touring acts out of AGT is JE, LS, and a group called Texas Tenors (all cc btw). They have sold a half a million albums. Done multiple tours, albums, and 2 pbs specials. I checked and they have 21k instagram followers and much more in facebook followers, so again they are booking concerts.
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Post by richard on Jun 23, 2024 1:36:02 GMT -5
Because talent doesn't pay the bills, popularity does. Thats more word salad. The only three successful recording and touring acts out of AGT is JE, LS, and a group called Texas Tenors (all cc btw). They have sold a half a million albums. Done multiple tours, albums, and 2 pbs specials. I checked and they have 21k instagram followers and much more in facebook followers, so again they are booking concerts. Out of the 3 mentioned only LS is very successful. Texas Tenors play out of a night club that has a capacity less than 1000. They only have 15,349 monthly spotify listeners. Texas Tenors artist rank #228K+ That is a hell of a lot of singing artist ranked ahead of them. Lindsey Stirling has 3,162,278 spotify monthly listeners. Does Lindsey Stirling even sing her acts are mostly her dancing around with other artist playing instruments. Lindsey Stirling is considered a youtuber with 14.1 M subscribers Seems if there needs to be singing done then she will get someone else to do it. Like in her new music video released last week.
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Post by colt46 on Jun 23, 2024 6:12:10 GMT -5
You make money by doing concerts, the purpose of making new music is so the singer has new music 🎼 to sing at future concerts!
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