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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 23, 2024 20:45:51 GMT -5
Colt - its easy - just make daddy happy. Exactly. Daddy is happier with less mudslinging.
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Post by BOGC on Jun 23, 2024 21:10:14 GMT -5
Rules exist so that popular consensus does not run amok. They followed the rules, they got the platinum. Doesn't matter how large a percentage of people might not think they deserved it. The only thing that matters is how many people bought it, not that most of them may have bought it for the co-packaged DVD rather than the EP. Heck, those who liked the AGT appearances probably liked the EP too, esp. since two of the tracks were Christmas tracks, and it was the right time for those to do well. Yep, they pulled a fast one and got away with bending the rules because that is how society is today. Goal posts get moved, media hype brainwashes the public, things happen that shouldn't. But there is always a silent majority that figures out the truth and doesn't go along with the scamming. And no matter how much ballyhoo there is in her promotions and interviews, now 14 years later, about how she is this massive multiplatinum selling singer, huge amazing chart topping artist, greatest all time singer in the universe, etc., the public knows better and she can only get a few dozen people out to see her in a major city. The public ain't buying the smoke and mirrors, and neither am I. Only you OTTs are too blind to see straight. Jackie is and always will be the Angel of Music! (doesn't mean she has to be stereotyped as an actual angel)
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Post by donkey on Jun 23, 2024 21:23:49 GMT -5
Colt - its easy - just make daddy happy. Exactly. Daddy is happier with less mudslinging. What about pie slinging?
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 23, 2024 21:35:09 GMT -5
Exactly. Daddy is happier with less mudslinging. What about pie slinging? Well there’s also this::
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Post by donkey on Jun 23, 2024 21:41:50 GMT -5
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Post by The Jackinator on Jun 23, 2024 22:06:42 GMT -5
Hmm---so Jackie's "My Story" shows will likely contain songs from each "era" in her career so far and she said it will include songs from pre-AGT. These are the songs that I'm guessing that Jackie will perform this weekend with a song limit of 24: Pre-AGT - Pre-AGT Playlist
1. Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again 2. Panis Angelicus AGT - AGT Playlist3. O Mio Babbino Caro O Holy Night - O Holy Night PlaylistNone Dream With Me/Heavenly Christmas - DWM Playlist4. When You Wish Upon a Star 5. Lovers 6. Angel 7. The Impossible Dream Songs from the Silver Screen - SFTSS Playlist8. Pure Imagination 9. What a Wonderful World 10. Music of the Night Awakening - Awakening Playlist11. Think of Me 12. With or Without You 13. The Haunting Someday at Christmas/Two Hearts - Two Hearts Playlist14. Apocalypse 15. How Great Thou Art The Debut - The Debut Playlist16. Burn 17. A Million Dreams The Masked Singer - Masked Singer Playlist18. Diamond's Are a Girl's Best Friend Carousel of Time - Carousel of Time Playlist19. River 20. Blue 21. Both Sides Now Solla - Solla Playlist22. Consequences 23. Behind My Eyes Encore:
24. Nessun Dorma Songs I thought about including were: My Heart Will Go On, Imaginer, Somewhere, Over the Rainbow, May It Be, Safe and Sound, The Haunting Anyone else want to take a guess? There are links above to playlists to help you choose songs. Maybe we should have a contest
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Post by msims on Jun 23, 2024 22:38:58 GMT -5
Unfortunately i know how it works and they were considered units sold. My uncles used to work for Handleman Company and another group I forget from about 1968-199? And yeah… they used to tell loads of stories of the biggest name musicians you can imagine getting their albums and records shipped to warehouses - counting as sales - and for them to be destroyed a few years to decades later. It’s a bummer but that’s the industry. It’s how it works in the US. I don’t know about other countries. Soundscan would have tracked the sale transaction, but if these were literally kept in the warehouse or the "stock room" and not put on the floor because of defects such as cracked cases, then wheres the transaction? Out of the 3 mentioned only LS is very successful. LS is her equal btw. Out of the 3 only one artist had two #2 B200 chart debuts and thats Jackie, LS had one, shes also sold more physical units than LS. Jackie's and the TT streaming and follower counts show clearly that there audiences are older as most followers are on fb. Just what does Disappointed have to say to have her post removed? She has to post disparaging off-topic material. 90 percent of what is posted here is off topic and disparaging (including this post) and Caz and Rickky are to blame as are you for not doing anything. The amazon discussions were about criticism or positive reviews of products, thats the system. Caz's opinion is that Jackie is not a good singer or her music isn't good, thats an opinion. But manipulating and gaslighting, completely lying that there was somehow a scam that "they (whoever the hell "they" is) bended the rules". RIAA doesn't care about Caz and her feelings, the label paid for the RIAA's auditing process they then in a matter of days certified it platinum based on their criteria, criteria that includes bundles and shortform album/ep award that must include at least three but no more than five different songs. As far as the point about the NY concerts. There are older Jackie fans in Biden's economy cannot afford a trip to NYC and to pay for $25 for food and drinks on top of the ticket price. we all had extremely high hopes for Jackie to be singing to sell out stadiums and arenas Jackie has sung in stadiums and arenas. You really don't get Caz at all btw.
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Post by Caz, Cait and the Botz on Jun 23, 2024 22:45:27 GMT -5
Unfortunately i know how it works and they were considered units sold. My uncles used to work for Handleman Company and another group I forget from about 1968-199? And yeah… they used to tell loads of stories of the biggest name musicians you can imagine getting their albums and records shipped to warehouses - counting as sales - and for them to be destroyed a few years to decades later. It’s a bummer but that’s the industry. It’s how it works in the US. I don’t know about other countries. Soundscan would have tracked the sale transaction, but if these were literally kept in the warehouse or the "stock room" and not put on the floor because of defects such as cracked cases, then wheres the transaction? Out of the 3 mentioned only LS is very successful. LS is her equal btw. Out of the 3 only one artist had two #2 B200 chart debuts and thats Jackie, shes also sold more physical units than LS. Jackie's and the TT streaming and follower counts show clearly that there audiences are older as most followers are on fb. She has to post disparaging off-topic material. 90 percent of what is posted here is off topic and disparaging (including this post) and Caz and Rickky are to blame as are you for not doing anything. The amazon discussions were about criticism or positive reviews of products, thats the system. Caz's opinion is that Jackie is not a good singer or her music isn't good, thats an opinion. But manipulating and gaslighting, completely lying that "they (whoever the hell "they" is) bended the rules". RIAA doesn't care about Caz and her feelings, the label initiated the RIAA's auditing process they then in a matter of days certified it platinum based on their criteria, criteria that includes bundles and shortform album/ep award that must include at least three but no more than five different songs. As far as the point about the NY concerts. There are older Jackie fans in Biden's economy cannot afford a trip to NYC and to pay for $25 for food and drinks on top of the ticket price. Her streaming numbers and social media numbers show that we all had extremely high hopes for Jackie to be singing to sell out stadiums and arenas Jackie has sung in stadiums and arenas. You really don't get Caz at all btw. Caz's botz did a calculation and found that 99% of msims posts are disparaging to other members (including this post). The botz were able to identify only a few of msims' posts that promoted Jackie and showed he was willing to lead by example. Sad!
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Post by msims on Jun 23, 2024 23:54:41 GMT -5
the public knows better and she can only get a few dozen people out to see her in a major city. The public ain't buying the smoke and mirrors, and neither am I. Only you OTTs are too blind to see straight. i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExa250djRlYzJpY2trajh6eDBqcXU2cjRlNXJ1YWVmb2h1c2YzOWJkdiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/giid5FskDmHbtLU72g/giphy.gif i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExb2N5dXcwM2lheG1oM2h3dGVsdmEwZnZoc3k0MDg2djB6cnV6eXV6NCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif I counted tickets sold for both nights: Night one is 83 available so 64 sold and night two is 63 so 79 sold out of 147. So combined that is 143 tickets sold for both nights which is the equivalent of a sell out. The show bookers wanted two nights though, probably to make their money on food and bev I suspect.
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Post by richard on Jun 23, 2024 23:56:33 GMT -5
LS is her equal btw. Out of the 3 only one artist had two #2 B200 chart debuts and thats Jackie, LS had one, shes also sold more physical units than LS. Jackie's and the TT streaming and follower counts show clearly that there audiences are older as most followers are on fb. Neither Jackie Evancho or the TT what you call ems have anything near Lindsey Stirling's Tour this year. Seems her concerts are in the 3000 to 20,000 range. Jackie's is in the 200 range now and the Texas Teners in the 1000 range. www.lindseystirling.com/tour/Lindsey Stirling is a Youtuber. She is not a singer so it is no surprise Lindsey doesn't make the B200 charts. Lindsey has several Youtube music videos with hundreds of millions of views. This one has 402 million views.
The best Jackie has done is "Jackie Evancho - Angel (from PBS Great Performances)" 6.3M views 13 years ago" I am really surprised that Lindsey Sterling has 3,155,992 monthly Spotify listeners for some one that isn't really a singer.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jun 23, 2024 23:58:36 GMT -5
Hmm---so Jackie's "My Story" shows will likely contain songs from each "era" in her career so far and she said it will include songs from pre-AGT. These are the songs that I'm guessing that Jackie will perform this weekend with a song limit of 24: Pre-AGT - Pre-AGT Playlist
1. Wishing You Were Somehow Here Again 2. Panis Angelicus AGT - AGT Playlist3. O Mio Babbino Caro O Holy Night - O Holy Night PlaylistNone Dream With Me/Heavenly Christmas - DWM Playlist4. When You Wish Upon a Star 5. Lovers 6. Angel 7. The Impossible Dream Songs from the Silver Screen - SFTSS Playlist8. Pure Imagination 9. What a Wonderful World 10. Music of the Night Awakening - Awakening Playlist11. Think of Me 12. With or Without You Someday at Christmas/Two Hearts - Two Hearts Playlist13. Apocalypse 14. The Haunting (oops, this song belongs here)15. How Great Thou Art The Debut - The Debut Playlist16. Burn 17. A Million Dreams The Masked Singer - Masked Singer Playlist18. Diamond's Are a Girl's Best Friend Carousel of Time - Carousel of Time Playlist19. River 20. Blue 21. Both Sides Now Solla - Solla Playlist22. Consequences 23. Behind My Eyes Encore:
24. Nessun Dorma Songs I thought about including were: My Heart Will Go On, Imaginer, Somewhere, Over the Rainbow, May It Be, Safe and Sound, The Haunting Anyone else want to take a guess? There are links above to playlists to help you choose songs. Maybe we should have a contest
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Post by msims on Jun 24, 2024 0:17:21 GMT -5
LS is her equal btw. Out of the 3 only one artist had two #2 B200 chart debuts and thats Jackie, LS had one, shes also sold more physical units than LS. Jackie's and the TT streaming and follower counts show clearly that there audiences are older as most followers are on fb. Neither Jackie Evancho or the TT what you call ems have anything near Lindsey Stirling's Tour this year. Seems her concerts are in the 3000 to 20,000 range. Jackie's is in the 200 range now and the Texas Teners in the 1000 range. www.lindseystirling.com/tour/Lindsey Stirling is a Youtuber. She is not a singer so it is no surprise Lindsey doesn't make the B200 charts. Lindsey has several Youtube music videos with hundreds of millions of views. This one has 402 million views. The best Jackie has done is "Jackie Evancho - Angel (from PBS Great Performances)" 6.3M views 13 years ago" I am really surprised that Lindsey Sterling has 3,155,992 monthly Spotify listeners for some one that isn't really a singer. There have been videos that were taken down with 10 million plus views. To Believe, CYFTLT. AOTS has 8m streams on spotify, 4.5m on yt and GOOML has now over 100k streams. She has made passes towards a younger demo but she hasnt had that huge hit that resonated that could put her in those larger venues. donkey found it amusing that I would suggest she is back to writing. What does donkey think artists do? The question is whether Jackie wants to play large venues though at this point, if she wants to open or co-headline a tour in larger venues. She seems as donkey has surmised introverted and shy, lacking the narcissism of other performers who probably want to play larger venues and work to do so. So its a question of what SHE wants, not others expectations. But a hit would really move things along and drive a certain poster nuts.
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 24, 2024 0:18:25 GMT -5
the public knows better and she can only get a few dozen people out to see her in a major city. The public ain't buying the smoke and mirrors, and neither am I. Only you OTTs are too blind to see straight. i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExa250djRlYzJpY2trajh6eDBqcXU2cjRlNXJ1YWVmb2h1c2YzOWJkdiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/giid5FskDmHbtLU72g/giphy.gif i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExb2N5dXcwM2lheG1oM2h3dGVsdmEwZnZoc3k0MDg2djB6cnV6eXV6NCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3oz8xLd9DJq2l2VFtu/giphy.gif I counted tickets sold for both nights: Night one is 83 available so 64 sold and night two is 63 so 79 sold out of 147. So combined that is 143 tickets sold for both nights which is the equivalent of a sell out. The show bookers wanted two nights though, probably to make their money on food and bev I suspect. Don't forget, Simsy, that likely at least 50 of those are going BOTH nights. It's the same clowns going to the former circus. Too bad there aren't 147 clowns in New York. Then you could count 2 sellouts. I hope you get a job counting ballots on election night.
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 24, 2024 0:23:25 GMT -5
The question is whether Jackie wants to play large venues though at this point, if she wants to open or co-headline a tour in larger venues. She seems as donkey has surmised introverted and shy, lacking the narcissism of other performers who probably want to play larger venues and work to do so. So its a question of what SHE wants, not others expectations. That's it, of course! You figured it out, Simsy! She could sell out far more stadiums than Taylor Swift, but she CHOOSES NOT TO, because she is shy and wouldn't want to bring too much attention to herself. Got it!!!
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Post by msims on Jun 24, 2024 0:32:28 GMT -5
The question is whether Jackie wants to play large venues though at this point, if she wants to open or co-headline a tour in larger venues. She seems as donkey has surmised introverted and shy, lacking the narcissism of other performers who probably want to play larger venues and work to do so. So its a question of what SHE wants, not others expectations. That's it, of course! You figured it out, Simsy! She could sell out far more stadiums than Taylor Swift, but she CHOOSES NOT TO, because she is shy and wouldn't want to bring too much attention to herself. Got it!!! I would suggest listening to the words of Dave Grohl I said there are artists who want to play arenas and others who do not and btw also those who don't like touring. But as I said in the above post, its about her expectations however if she wants to play larger venues then she needs to write a big hit or at the moment do some kind of opening slot or coheadline type of thing.
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