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Post by Disappointed on Jun 30, 2024 12:44:32 GMT -5
That would have been mentioned at the time. The E's as well as OTTs never missed a bragging opportunity, so if in fact Disney wanted her for something, they would have trumpeted that across the galaxy. LoL...I, unlike you, don't believe that Jackie just made that up out of thin air. Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? Enquiring minds want to know!
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 12:51:35 GMT -5
SoCal Fan loves to find something wrong ,he is so good at finding anything that is negative when it comes to Jackie, notice he doesn’t do it with other singers! It may have something to do with the fact that this is a Jackie forum. Personal grudge maybe like Disappointed has! I do have a personal grudge. I'll never forgive her for cheating on me with another guy.
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Post by colt46 on Jun 30, 2024 13:00:34 GMT -5
Leave it to Johnnyb to put a negative spin on Jackie, she might as well quit now!
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 30, 2024 13:27:59 GMT -5
Leave it to Johnnyb to put a negative spin on Jackie, she might as well quit now! Sorry Bub, I call em like I see em. Jackie’s appeal to the younger generation is dismal to say the least.
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Post by Fakelifestory on Jun 30, 2024 13:34:10 GMT -5
LoL...I, unlike you, don't believe that Jackie just made that up out of thin air. Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? Enquiring minds want to know! Then they tried to leverage the inauguartion event by meeting with a senator and having a news reporter ask the white house press secretary if they (team Trump) would be willing to have a meeting with Juliet E-vahn-choh (totally botched the name). The secretary responded in a political way by saying, "we would welcome that meeting". Totally shot it down and Jackie hasn't recovered since. That video is nowhere to be found now. Don't forget the lyme disease event Jacob came out for the first time at as a chick where they claimed Lisa also had Lyme disease like Yolanda Foster, who was at the event. How coincidental. There was once an interview where Jacob / Juliet said that it was his/her mom that told him/her that she might be a girl. That interview is no where to be found now and the narrative was changed in a different interview to "I always liked to play with dolls growing up. There was a follow up interview with Mike that is also now gone where he explains how at first he also did not believe Jacob was a chick but came to accept it and believe. Anyone remember that? Speaking of Lisa, how's the Brave Heart foundation working out? Funneled the money out of the divorce to her and Juliet more than likely by using a private foundation front. No actual work to that building she supposedly bought was ever done. How about the loving family that lived with their exes and new partners together during Covid. I bet that was quite the orgy. Or how about the mental health narrative / lousy EP coincidentally during mental health awareness month? The stories go on and on with this family, and yet these are ONLY the ones we hear about. Welcome to being a celebrity I guess. This girl has 0 direction. Zip, nada. Her dad has her by the leash, and they call that achievement by proxy distortion. Hardly anyone cares anymore about YOUR STORY, dear Jackie. They care about THEIR story. When she starts, if ever, to understand that, maybe she can,develop a career again.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 13:42:24 GMT -5
That would have been mentioned at the time. The E's as well as OTTs never missed a bragging opportunity, so if in fact Disney wanted her for something, they would have trumpeted that across the galaxy. LoL...I, unlike you, don't believe that Jackie just made that up out of thin air. But the fact is that Jackie has worked with Disney. She made an appearance on Wizards of Waverly Place which is a Disney Channel production: I would not be surprised at all if Disney had other opportunities for Jackie in mind. But nothing major, of course, since Jackie has no real acting experience.
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Post by richard on Jun 30, 2024 13:48:16 GMT -5
Jackie should have went where the work was. She would have in a heartbeat, but the truth is she didn't get all those supposed offers that she supposedly turned down. Don't think Lisa and Mike turned down any lucrative offers, they cashed in on anything they could while the lotto win craze was happening. But there's only a limited amount of opportunities for a circus parrot. That is just it, unless you live in LA and have an agent actively looking at all the bookings you wouldn't even know what is available. Disney is not going up to Pittsburgh to give Jackie an audition for something. You may have to do dozens of auditions before you land something good.
That is unless you have a big enough name like Millie Bobby Brown and Jenna Ortega that the directors will go after because they know they will perform well and bring a lot of their fan base to the movies.
Jackie doesn't have the work ethics as the others do either. Maddie Ziegler said this in a interview a week ago.
“If you look at someone like Jenna, who’s one of my greatest friends, she hasn’t had a break other than Christmas since I worked with her. That was when we were 16, and we're 21 now ( Jenna Ortega is 3 days older than Maddie ). She’s the hardest working person, and has probably missed so many formative things that you're supposed to experience outside of work, and somehow has remained the most level-headed, sweet, humble person.”
Jackie could never handle a real acting gig or tour where you are away from you family for months. Probably every director and label knows this and wouldn't even consider her.
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Post by stumped on Jun 30, 2024 13:50:41 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 14:26:07 GMT -5
LoL...I, unlike you, don't believe that Jackie just made that up out of thin air. Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? Enquiring minds want to know! Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? LoL...there is zero evidence that had anything to do with losing friends. I highly doubt that any of her friends were transgender haters. Her sudden fame, jealousy from some, and her inability to handle it seemed to be the primary culprit. She is also socially award, esp. around people her own age in general, and that was read by some as her being aloof or "stuck up" after her success on AGT.Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? She did mention that last night. And she did sing for the pope. That's why she went, to sing for the pope. It turned out he wasnt at the live performance, but it was recorded and hopefully he saw it, as she was indeed singing it for him to watch. Could she be a little more clear about that? Sure, but it's smart marketing, and technically true. She didn't say she sang in front of him live.Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? She didnt mention the inauguration last night, but she has always maintained that her purpose was to sing for the country, and in a very recent interview...she defends doing it and says she has explained why and doesn't regret it. Sure, when some of the trans crowd gave her grief right afterwards for it, she seemed to regret it, only because those people mistook it for her supporting Trump. Understandable...she was a 16 year old kid who hated conflict and really wanted to be liked. But she has long since backed away from insinuating that she wishes she hadnt done it and now says she's glad she did it, reiterating that it wasnt politically motivated at all, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with doing it, and that it checked a box on her bucket list.How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? LoL...no, she didn't mention that last night. I have always maintained that was very poorly handled. But on the other hand, when someone is in the throws of severe, peaking mental illness, sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees and she was likely just trying to handle her inner demons at the time. Her Dad, family member, or other management should have released a general, generic statement that Jackie is dealing with personal issues, and cant tour anyways due to covid, so she is taking a break...but will be back when she gets it sorted out and loves her fans and greatly appreciates them sticking with her during these challenging times. Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? She didn't get into detail about her mental illness or back injury last night, but in very recent interviews, she has said her back never was quite the same again and bothers her some, and that she is still very much still battling her eating disorder. I never heard the heart thing, but none of us knows exactly what she was referring to or her medical history first hand.And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? That would be nice, although, she never said "big tour". The interviewer asked if any new shows were coming out since Solla was released, and Jackie said keep your eyes out as it's being worked on. Well, the two 55 Below shows have happened, and that Nov date is still unannounced but coming. I hope there will be more dates and believe they are trying to get more, but are still finding it difficult to get venues due to poor social media numbers. If what we know of ends up being it, thats just sad. Fingers crossed.Enquiring minds want to know! ROFL...more like JDS minds want to always believe the worst. Everyone tells little white lies, or lies to hide stuff they are embarrassed by, but in general I don't find that Jackie deliberately lies to her fans. In fact, I've found over the years that a remarkable number of things she claims or references turns out in fact to be true. I have noticed though, that sometimes Jackie claims she will do something down the road that she ends up not doing, not because she's lying about it, but because she genuinely intends on doing it when she says it, but ends up not doing it for whatever reason (like selling prints of her art)...or, is unable to do it even though she was wanting to do it (like doing the Italy tour/private show).
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Post by colt46 on Jun 30, 2024 14:50:50 GMT -5
I sure do like the word never, that Jackie could never handle an acting gig! WOW WHAT A PREDICTION ! I don’t like to say that ! Nothing ventured nothing gained! OH NO PRODUCER WOULD EVER WANT TO WORK WITH HER, I AM SURE JACKIE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT, IT WOULD MAKE HER FEEL SO GOOD ABOUT HERSELF, NOT! DOINT FORGET TO GET YOUR LOTTERY TICKET 🎟️!
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 14:55:43 GMT -5
I sure do like the word never, that Jackie could never handle an acting gig! WOW WHAT A PREDICTION ! I don’t like to say that ! Nothing ventured nothing gained! OH NO PRODUCER WOULD EVER WANT TO WORK WITH HER, I AM SURE JACKIE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THAT, IT WOULD MAKE HER FEEL SO GOOD ABOUT HERSELF, NOT! DOINT FORGET TO GET YOUR LOTTERY TICKET 🎟️! Jackie has always said she would love to do more movies, but nobody has ever asked her to. There is a reason for that. If she had a serious desire to act more, she should have taken acting lessons and/or gone to auditions. She has never done that. So she has no natural acting ability, and makes no effort to try and get acting gigs or get better at acting. I can only conclude that it's not that important to her. lol
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 30, 2024 15:16:17 GMT -5
Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? Enquiring minds want to know! Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? LoL...there is zero evidence that had anything to do with losing friends. I highly doubt that any of her friends were transgender haters. Her sudden fame, jealousy from some, and her inability to handle it seemed to be the primary culprit. She is also socially award, esp. around people her own age in general, and that was read by some as her being aloof or "stuck up" after her success on AGT.Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? She did mention that last night. And she did sing for the pope. That's why she went, to sing for the pope. It turned out he wasnt at the live performance, but it was recorded and hopefully he saw it, as she was indeed singing it for him to watch. Could she be a little more clear about that? Sure, but it's smart marketing, and technically true. She didn't say she sang in front of him live.Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? She didnt mention the inauguration last night, but she has always maintained that her purpose was to sing for the country, and in a very recent interview...she defends doing it and says she has explained why and doesn't regret it. Sure, when some of the trans crowd gave her grief right afterwards for it, she seemed to regret it, only because those people mistook it for her supporting Trump. Understandable...she was a 16 year old kid who hated conflict and really wanted to be liked. But she has long since backed away from insinuating that she wishes she hadnt done it and now says she's glad she did it, reiterating that it wasnt politically motivated at all, that there was absolutely nothing wrong with doing it, and that it checked a box on her bucket list.How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? LoL...no, she didn't mention that last night. I have always maintained that was very poorly handled. But on the other hand, when someone is in the throws of severe, peaking mental illness, sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees and she was likely just trying to handle her inner demons at the time. Her Dad, family member, or other management should have released a general, generic statement that Jackie is dealing with personal issues, and cant tour anyways due to covid, so she is taking a break...but will be back when she gets it sorted out and loves her fans and greatly appreciates them sticking with her during these challenging times. Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? She didn't get into detail about her mental illness or back injury last night, but in very recent interviews, she has said her back never was quite the same again and bothers her some, and that she is still very much still battling her eating disorder. I never heard the heart thing, but none of us knows exactly what she was referring to or her medical history first hand.And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? That would be nice, although, she never said "big tour". The interviewer asked if any new shows were coming out since Solla was released, and Jackie said keep your eyes out as it's being worked on. Well, the two 55 Below shows have happened, and that Nov date is still unannounced but coming. I hope there will be more dates and believe they are trying to get more, but are still finding it difficult to get venues due to poor social media numbers. If what we know of ends up being it, thats just sad. Fingers crossed.Enquiring minds want to know! ROFL...more like JDS minds want to always believe the worst. Everyone tells little white lies, or lies to hide stuff they are embarrassed by, but in general I don't find that Jackie deliberately lies to her fans. In fact, I've found over the years that a remarkable number of things she claims or references turns out in fact to be true. I have noticed though, that sometimes Jackie claims she will do something down the road that she ends up not doing, not because she's lying about it, but because she genuinely intends on doing it when she says it, but ends up not doing it for whatever reason (like selling prints of her art)...or, is unable to do it even though she was wanting to do it (like doing the Italy tour/private show).LOL! It's amazing how someone can get so indoctrinated into a worshipping a has been no name. It's slightly more understandable when it is a big well known successful celebrity. But this is just flat out hilarious. You swallow absolutely everything she says and make unlimited excuses. Amazingly sad but as I said, also hilarious.
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Post by More not More on Jun 30, 2024 15:21:38 GMT -5
Her voice is still gorgeous Disappointed, catch up! Yes, that is why her latest album sold millions and she is packing venues around the world. Oh wait, her album flopped and she could only sell 70 seats in a well known NYC restaurant/bar, most of those regulars, friends and OTTs. A "gorgeous" voice apparently isn't enough to overcome her downward trend. I personally don't find her voice to be gorgeous, but it doesn't matter because when I think about the music I listen to the most, ensemble wins over voice. What a group of musicians can do with good writing and music production can't be beat by just any singer standing next to a piano. Lady Gaga and a piano maybe. Jackie singing "Over the Rainbow" and "How Great Thou Art" not so much. I personally think the damage to Jackie's career is a done deal, and there will be no comeback. That said, I had high hopes for Solla because it's a GROUP. If Jackie had put together a band for the 54 Below show it might have drawn more people. I would have paid to watch the stream because that's what I've been waiting for her to do. What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? A pattern is emerging where Jackie releases an album and then throws it away. The Debut, the Joni thing, and now Solla (except token songs with no band). Right back to doing her banal, tired, generic, uninteresting, unremarkable CC lineup in the guise of a cabaret show. Let's hope that this is just a one-off, because the fans who wandered off because they weren't interested in her CC stuff anymore are not going to come rushing back to watch her do more of the same.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 15:36:15 GMT -5
when I think about the music I listen to the most, ensemble wins over voice. What a group of musicians can do with good writing and music production can't be beat by just any singer standing next to a piano. I'm not sure I understand. Other than the rare duets, Jackie has been a solo singer for her whole career. If you prefer ensemble musicians, how did you ever become interested in her music?
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Post by More not More on Jun 30, 2024 15:45:12 GMT -5
when I think about the music I listen to the most, ensemble wins over voice. What a group of musicians can do with good writing and music production can't be beat by just any singer standing next to a piano. I'm not sure I understand. Other than the rare duets, Jackie has been a solo singer for her whole career. If you prefer ensemble musicians, how did you ever become interested in her music? What I listen to "most" are groups. That doesn't mean I don't listen to park and bark, Jackie being one of them. I grew tired of her act, so now I'd like to hear her do something different. Her announcing a change in direction came as good news to me, and my reaction to that news reinforces my (non-exclusive) preference for groups.
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