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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 30, 2024 15:48:15 GMT -5
Btw, did her "Life Story" include her advocating that boys use the girls bathroom at school, thereby losing all of her friends? Or "singing for the Pope" when he was on the other side of town? Or how she claimed all along that she was "singing for her country" at the Inauguration then later said she shouldn't have done that event and blamed it on her team? How about ghosting fans for a year with no explanation? Eating disorder update? How's those 80 year old bones doing, as well as that heart problem she claimed she had when she was doing that charity event for a heart foundation? And of course this big tour coming up that she claimed was being put in place, that should be all lined up by now? Enquiring minds want to know! Then they tried to leverage the inauguartion event by meeting with a senator and having a news reporter ask the white house press secretary if they (team Trump) would be willing to have a meeting with Juliet E-vahn-choh (totally botched the name). The secretary responded in a political way by saying, "we would welcome that meeting". Totally shot it down and Jackie hasn't recovered since. That video is nowhere to be found now. Don't forget the lyme disease event Jacob came out for the first time at as a chick where they claimed Lisa also had Lyme disease like Yolanda Foster, who was at the event. How coincidental. There was once an interview where Jacob / Juliet said that it was his/her mom that told him/her that she might be a girl. That interview is no where to be found now and the narrative was changed in a different interview to "I always liked to play with dolls growing up. There was a follow up interview with Mike that is also now gone where he explains how at first he also did not believe Jacob was a chick but came to accept it and believe. Anyone remember that? Speaking of Lisa, how's the Brave Heart foundation working out? Funneled the money out of the divorce to her and Juliet more than likely by using a private foundation front. No actual work to that building she supposedly bought was ever done. How about the loving family that lived with their exes and new partners together during Covid. I bet that was quite the orgy. Or how about the mental health narrative / lousy EP coincidentally during mental health awareness month? The stories go on and on with this family, and yet these are ONLY the ones we hear about. Welcome to being a celebrity I guess. This girl has 0 direction. Zip, nada. Her dad has her by the leash, and they call that achievement by proxy distortion. Hardly anyone cares anymore about YOUR STORY, dear Jackie. They care about THEIR story. When she starts, if ever, to understand that, maybe she can,develop a career again. I vividly remember Jake/Juliet describing the night that Lisa told him that he might be a girl, and then him/her staying up all night researching the subject. That's the night that Juliet was born. I remember it because I was horrified that a mother would do something like that. I haven't looked for that interview but if it disappeared, I certainly understand why it did. And yes, I've wondered what happened with all of that money that Lisa raised, and it was tidy sum, for her LGBTQ foundation. As far as we know those donations weren't refunded. And yes, Lisa had Lyme and Jackie had a heart issue when they were at events to bring those issues to the public. As far as her story goes, I agree, enough already, but that's how she gets attention for her latest albums. Poor child alone in hotel rooms because her mother was sick, fake priests, being afraid of men, and on and on. It's one thing to share with fans, but it's another thing to go on and on about them especially when people are there to hear you sing. Just sing!
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 15:52:14 GMT -5
What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? What she is doing is acknowledging that Stolla has not been successful. If Stolla had been successful, she would have sung all 6 Stolla songs plus a number of pop covers. But if she had done that, she would have sold 10 tickets instead of 70 tickets. She ended up singing a concert of mostly old CC favorites because that's what most of her audience wanted to hear. She had no choice.
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Post by Disappointed on Jun 30, 2024 15:57:49 GMT -5
What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? What she is doing is acknowledging that Stolla has not been successful. If Stolla had been successful, she would have sung all 6 Stolla songs plus a number of pop covers. But if she had done that, she would have sold 10 tickets instead of 70 tickets. She ended up singing a concert of mostly old CC favorites because that's what most of her audience wanted to hear. She had no choice. It was so successful that people who frequent, and even moderate, her websites forget what the name of it even is.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 16:12:46 GMT -5
I vividly remember Jake/Juliet describing the night that Lisa told him that he might be a girl, and then him/her staying up all night researching the subject. That's the night that Juliet was born. I remember it because I was horrified that a mother would do something like that. I believe Lisa did the right thing. Juliet had been unhappy all her life because she felt like a girl and did girl things but had the body of a boy. Lisa told her she might be transgender and that changed her life for the better. "The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries. Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/Does Lisa's approach always work? Of course not. But I believe it gave Juliet a much better chance of not ending up as yet another sad statistic.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 16:17:36 GMT -5
It was so successful that people who frequent, and even moderate, her websites forget what the name of it even is. Solla, Stolla, potato, potahto.
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 16:24:23 GMT -5
What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? What she is doing is acknowledging that Stolla has not been successful. If Stolla had been successful, she would have sung all 6 Stolla songs plus a number of pop covers. But if she had done that, she would have sold 10 tickets instead of 70 tickets. She ended up singing a concert of mostly old CC favorites because that's what most of her audience wanted to hear. She had no choice. Toward the end, she said she felt as though she'd like to sing some original songs from the EP, then admitted she is still shy sharing her original songs. After singing BME, she added, "It sounds a lot different with a synthesizer and drums". While no doubt true, she sounded like she was apologizing for how it sounded somewhat. I was a bit taken aback that she didnt sing more of her songs, not to mention how low her confidence in performing them seemed to be (I figured we hear at least four from Solla). "I'm still shy about sharing my own songs, in case you can't tell". I knew she was that way in Nashville when she sang Smoking Gun, but I figured she'd be going all out with them now. This notion by some that Jackie is going to write a bunch of original music, lose the old cc music, get a more interesting stage persona, and start up a new career is pure fantasy. She is so far from even having the confidence to do that, it's almost unimaginable.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 30, 2024 16:36:09 GMT -5
What she is doing is acknowledging that Stolla has not been successful. If Stolla had been successful, she would have sung all 6 Stolla songs plus a number of pop covers. But if she had done that, she would have sold 10 tickets instead of 70 tickets. She ended up singing a concert of mostly old CC favorites because that's what most of her audience wanted to hear. She had no choice. Toward the end, she said she felt as though she'd like to sing some original songs, then admitted she is still shy sharing her original songs onstage. After singing BME, she added, "It sounds a lot different with a synthesizer and drums". While no doubt true, she sounded like she was apologizing for how it sounded somewhat. I was a bit taken aback that she didnt sing more of her songs, not to mention how low her confidence in performing them seemed to be (I figured we hear at least four from Solla). "I'm still shy about sharing my own songs, in case you can't tell". I knew she was that way in Nashville when she sang Smoking Gun, but I figured she'd be going all out with them now. I don't think she lacks confidence in her new songs, not at all, she's performed and proteded them numerous times. I think she's quite proud of them. The piano only probably had something to do with it, and she's right, they sound MUCH better with the proper instruments. Arias and hymns, mostly sloooooooow songs, just a piano for accompaniment, at a bar? She needs a band, but even a backing track would have helped tremendously. I felt sorry for her.
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 16:38:13 GMT -5
Toward the end, she said she felt as though she'd like to sing some original songs, then admitted she is still shy sharing her original songs onstage. After singing BME, she added, "It sounds a lot different with a synthesizer and drums". While no doubt true, she sounded like she was apologizing for how it sounded somewhat. I was a bit taken aback that she didnt sing more of her songs, not to mention how low her confidence in performing them seemed to be (I figured we hear at least four from Solla). "I'm still shy about sharing my own songs, in case you can't tell". I knew she was that way in Nashville when she sang Smoking Gun, but I figured she'd be going all out with them now. I don't think she lacks confidence in her new songs, not at all, she's performed and proteded them numerous times. I think she's quite proud of them. The piano only probably had something to do with it, and she's right, they sound MUCH better with the proper instruments. Arias and hymns, mostly sloooooooow songs, just a piano for accompaniment, at a bar? She needs a band, but even a backing track would have helped tremendously. I felt sorry for her. She literally said that she is still shy about sharing them. And she just released an EP and only sang two of the songs...and added qualifiers...and made a mistake on one of her songs (not a big deal though). I think she is proud, but also nervous sharing the songs....well, and it's what she said. I have it recorded, although I dont want to publish that on YT. lol I do agree, a backing track or drums would have helped a lot with her original music. I would have love to have also heard mabye Get Out of My Life and Lost and Found, although they kind of need percussion. And by the way, she hasn't done hardly any live performances of most of her Solla songs. I've seen her perfom three of them, and in front of a paying audience, only once each. Recording a song is a far different thing than performing it live. Kind of like ignoring confrontation online is far easier for Jackie than dealing with it face to face, where it just makes her want to cry.
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Post by Fakelifestory on Jun 30, 2024 16:38:48 GMT -5
I vividly remember Jake/Juliet describing the night that Lisa told him that he might be a girl, and then him/her staying up all night researching the subject. That's the night that Juliet was born. I remember it because I was horrified that a mother would do something like that. I believe Lisa did the right thing. Juliet had been unhappy all her life because she felt like a girl and did girl things but had the body of a boy. Lisa told her she might be transgender and that changed her life for the better. "The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries. Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/Does Lisa's approach always work? Of course not. But I believe it gave Juliet a much better chance of not ending up as yet another sad statistic. Hard for anyone to be the judge of who is right or wrong for anything, especially the Evanchos. If the variable of Jacob being extremely jealous did not exist, I might be more inclined to agree with you. Either way, it does seem as though Juliet is happier. But then again we haven't heard from her or Lisa in quite a while.
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Post by 1 Guest on Jun 30, 2024 16:38:56 GMT -5
I vividly remember Jake/Juliet describing the night that Lisa told him that he might be a girl, and then him/her staying up all night researching the subject. That's the night that Juliet was born. I remember it because I was horrified that a mother would do something like that. I believe Lisa did the right thing. Juliet had been unhappy all her life because she felt like a girl and did girl things but had the body of a boy. Lisa told her she might be transgender and that changed her life for the better. "The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries. Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/Does Lisa's approach always work? Of course not. But I believe it gave Juliet a much better chance of not ending up as yet another sad statistic. Jacob would have figured it out on his own, either he was a tranny or just gay, and obviously, at that point, he hadn't done that. You don't encourage a child to mutilate his body.
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Post by johnnyb on Jun 30, 2024 16:53:36 GMT -5
What the heck does Juliet have to do with Jackie’s performances the last two nights? Geez!
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 16:55:53 GMT -5
Someone else who saw the show on livestream on Friday said this about what Jackie said. I had forgotten...kind of funny. "I was amused by her introduction to Ave Maria stating critics said she would ruin her voice singing classical songs as a child, and that made her angry......"So, I recorded Ave Maria, and that shut them up"."
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 16:58:39 GMT -5
What the heck does Juliet have to do with Jackie’s performances the last two nights? Geez! lol...you tell 'em jb!
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Post by colt46 on Jun 30, 2024 17:16:48 GMT -5
Yes it does not compute, talking about Juliet , when we have two resent Jackie performances to talk about!
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Post by BOGC on Jun 30, 2024 17:39:58 GMT -5
Yes, that is why her latest album sold millions and she is packing venues around the world. Oh wait, her album flopped and she could only sell 70 seats in a well known NYC restaurant/bar, most of those regulars, friends and OTTs. A "gorgeous" voice apparently isn't enough to overcome her downward trend. I personally don't find her voice to be gorgeous, but it doesn't matter because when I think about the music I listen to the most, ensemble wins over voice. What a group of musicians can do with good writing and music production can't be beat by just any singer standing next to a piano. Lady Gaga and a piano maybe. Jackie singing "Over the Rainbow" and "How Great Thou Art" not so much. I personally think the damage to Jackie's career is a done deal, and there will be no comeback. That said, I had high hopes for Solla because it's a GROUP. If Jackie had put together a band for the 54 Below show it might have drawn more people. I would have paid to watch the stream because that's what I've been waiting for her to do. What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? A pattern is emerging where Jackie releases an album and then throws it away. The Debut, the Joni thing, and now Solla (except token songs with no band). Right back to doing her banal, tired, generic, uninteresting, unremarkable CC lineup in the guise of a cabaret show. Let's hope that this is just a one-off, because the fans who wandered off because they weren't interested in her CC stuff anymore are not going to come rushing back to watch her do more of the same. An EP isn't nearly enough for an event. She did two out of five tracks, one being the most promoted track. That and some of the other later material is enough to introduce a change of direction without kicking everyone to the curb that came for the old direction (most, at this time).
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