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Post by Disappointed on Aug 1, 2024 16:34:10 GMT -5
life support because only you and Caz have access to her bank accounts, right? Seems even she doesn't have access to much of a bank account. Living in a modest condo with daddy that has been indicated here prior as rented, not owned. But even owned, would be worth only around $300k. And when someone has to try to get her few remaining old coot OTTs to pay for a trip to Italy so she gets her trip free, that doesn't say much about being able to afford something most middle income people would pay for gladly if they wanted to go there. And if she were making all this money, she wouldn't be so desperately throwing everything at the wall trying to become Jackie 3.0, 5.0, 84.0 etc. That smacks of desperation.
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Post by richard on Aug 1, 2024 16:48:36 GMT -5
No colt her career today is fine and you know better than to believe the nonsense you have read by jealous insecure mean girls who have no clue about the business. As a child she could not be the sole decision maker, so it was between Jackie and M& L. But that changed in 2015, she still had Marc up until the pandemic. Smarten up. And quit the bath salts you two. That is a lot of BS M & L only needed to sign the paperwork and assign a guardian for her when necessary like everyone else. A good management team does all the work and agents get paid by how much the jobs they find pays out. Unlike Mike that got paid for just laying out at the pool.
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Post by Take it or Leave it on Aug 1, 2024 17:00:43 GMT -5
While we're bogged down with streaming numbers and how much per-stream someone can make, I'd like to know what is the alternative? Quit streaming altogether? If it's not there, it won't get played, and if it doesn't get played, no one gets paid, pennies or not.
I was at a big box store today that still sells CDs and LPs. The collection was sparse, made up of only re-releases of popular old albums and new releases from blockbuster artists. It's just nostalgia and novelty (what's old is new again). It's cool to have LPs I guess, but does anyone play them? Plus they're really expensive, so their niche as hell. And the CD selection was worse; multiple copies each of only a handful of artists. It seems obvious to me that, if CDs were worth it financially, artists would risk the cost of production and distribution to put their CDs on shelves. There's no reason to pursue that market if the cost of entry is too high to make it worth the effort.
Streaming it is. Unfair system in need of reform, but in the meantime, streaming it is.
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Post by msims on Aug 1, 2024 17:08:34 GMT -5
No colt her career today is fine and you know better than to believe the nonsense you have read by jealous insecure mean girls who have no clue about the business. As a child she could not be the sole decision maker, so it was between Jackie and M& L. But that changed in 2015, she still had Marc up until the pandemic. Smarten up. And quit the bath salts you two. That is a lot of BS M & L only needed to sign the paperwork and assign a guardian for her when necessary like everyone else. Its normal to have children's parents involved in decisions (to protect them) and its crazy to have your potatohead running into Harvey Weinstein at the age of 12 with no parent around just Sia and you act like thats not a problem and that girl hasnt been traumatized. And its been completely pulled out of your butt and Caz's now that Mike lives with Jackie. Mike is with Christina and Christina is in Italy. Theres even pics of them modeling sunglasses. You guys lie so much.
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Post by msims on Aug 1, 2024 17:11:02 GMT -5
life support because only you and Caz have access to her bank accounts, right? Seems even she doesn't have access to much of a bank account. Living in a modest condo with daddy that has been indicated here prior as rented, not owned. But even owned, would be worth only around $300k.
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Post by donkey on Aug 1, 2024 17:23:07 GMT -5
Yeah, she was doing pretty good more than a decade ago. But we aren't talking about ancient history when her career peaked out, we are talking about today when her career is on life support. Whenever you post, this is the bit you are doing in your donkey head. Much of the streaming numbers happened in the last decade, you do know that right and life support because only you and Caz have access to her bank accounts, right? Msims can only talk about the past, to bad Jackie didn’t have a great manager back than instead of poolside Mike back then that would have taken advantage of Jackie’s fame than maybe Jackie’s career would be in better shape today than what we can plainly see is a declining career! No colt her career today is fine and you know better than to believe the nonsense you have read by jealous insecure mean girls who have no clue about the business. As a child she could not be the sole decision maker, so it was between Jackie and M& L. But that changed in 2015, she still had Marc up until the pandemic. Smarten up. And quit the bath salts you two. Her career today is "fine"? ROFL Come on msims, even in your wishful world you can't possibly believe that. If you did, that would mean you are totally removed from reality. I hope you aren't totally removed from reality. If so, we may have to have you committed.
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Post by msims on Aug 1, 2024 17:46:49 GMT -5
This is the real donkey. Behind the cheap used car sales man schtick: this is someone who truly hates her and wants/wanted her health and career to fail, so much so that he is constantly manipulating colt here, got banned over at Rick's and gaslighting Jackie herself on instagram. Hes is also far from being a Trump supporter, hes a pro-trans gaslighting liberal. The only actual republican here I believe is bogc.
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Post by donkey on Aug 1, 2024 17:58:24 GMT -5
This is the real donkey. Behind the cheap used car sales man schtick: this is someone who truly hates her and wants/wanted her health and career to fail, so much so that he is constantly manipulating colt here, got banned over at Rick's and gaslighting Jackie herself on instagram. Hes is also far from being a Trump supporter, hes a pro-trans gaslighting liberal. The only actual republican here I believe is bogc. That settles it!!!! Msims has totally lost it. Everything he just said is exactly the opposite of the reality, except about me getting banned from Rick's site. He didn't take kindly to me suggesting that he stop taking in cats. lol Msims...even you at this point can't possibly believe that Jackie's career is "fine". That's beyond absurd. I know it's not fine, Jackie knows its not fine, everyone else here knows it's not fine. But you could be right. Mabye you are the only sane one and everyone else is delusional. The fact that you still don't get that facing the reality of the state of Jackie's career has absolutely nothing to do with being a fan. Love Jackie, love her music, still listen to her new EP. As far as calling me a pro-transgender gaslighting liberal...thanks, that gave me a good laugh. ROFL
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Post by richard on Aug 1, 2024 18:00:43 GMT -5
That is a lot of BS M & L only needed to sign the paperwork and assign a guardian for her when necessary like everyone else. Its normal to have children's parents involved in decisions (to protect them) and its crazy to have your potatohead running into Harvey Weinstein at the age of 12 with no parent around just Sia and you act like thats not a problem and that girl hasnt been traumatized. And its been completely pulled out of your butt and Caz's now that Mike lives with Jackie. Mike is with Christina and Christina is in Italy. Theres even pics of them modeling sunglasses. You guys lie so much. Mike and Jackie live/lived together until recently and Jackie said Mike is moving to Italy not that he lives there now. It just makes it more obvious why Jackie was trying to get the money up to go to Italy also but failed.
In the mean time Kenzie goes Italy on vacation with her friends. I guess since Jackie doesn't have friends she will either have to go with Daddy or by herself. Sorry that deal already fell through.
What no parents along how did they survive.
And as for as I know Maddie never had anything to do with Weinstein and at that time she took her body guard with her everywhere. He looks like he could handle Weinstein from what I seen of him.
Now Jackie said Mike was her bodyguard but everyone knows you could probably just roll a quarter in front of him and they could just snatch Jackie as Mike was chasing the quarter down the street.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 1, 2024 18:11:21 GMT -5
This is the real donkey. Behind the cheap used car sales man schtick: this is someone who truly hates her and wants/wanted her health and career to fail, so much so that he is constantly manipulating colt here, got banned over at Rick's and gaslighting Jackie herself on instagram. Hes is also far from being a Trump supporter, hes a pro-trans gaslighting liberal. The only actual republican here I believe is bogc. You have something against transgenders, don't let Jackie hear that.
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Post by colt46 on Aug 1, 2024 18:24:34 GMT -5
Mike couldn’t provide Jackie protection, he’s a total joke! He’s lived off of Jackie for over a decade, instead of getting protection for his daughter, he pockets the money 💴 and says I got this at least if it doesn’t interfere with me getting a sun tan by the pool !
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Post by Grace Fan on Aug 1, 2024 18:31:19 GMT -5
Grace Vanderwaal should have a good amount because her parents are wealthy and don't seem to even want to be involved in her career except for making sure she had the right people behind her but I haven't seen Grace really make any big purchases like a house, I am sort of surprised she lives in an apartment unless it is a Condo that she bought. Grace has said in the past that her dream was to live in a cozy apartment in NY City. She seems to prefer to keep things simple.
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Post by colt46 on Aug 1, 2024 18:37:59 GMT -5
It’s up to Grace what she wants in live , please herself not those around her!
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Post by donkey on Aug 1, 2024 18:57:03 GMT -5
This is the real donkey. Behind the cheap used car sales man schtick: this is someone who truly hates her and wants/wanted her health and career to fail, so much so that he is constantly manipulating colt here, got banned over at Rick's and gaslighting Jackie herself on instagram. Hes is also far from being a Trump supporter, hes a pro-trans gaslighting liberal. The only actual republican here I believe is bogc. You have something against transgenders, don't let Jackie hear that. Yeah, I don't think that Jackie would appreciate that msims Tsk tsk.
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Post by richard on Aug 1, 2024 19:04:54 GMT -5
This is the real donkey. Behind the cheap used car sales man schtick: this is someone who truly hates her and wants/wanted her health and career to fail, so much so that he is constantly manipulating colt here, got banned over at Rick's and gaslighting Jackie herself on instagram. Hes is also far from being a Trump supporter, hes a pro-trans gaslighting liberal. The only actual republican here I believe is bogc. LOL I think you are as wrong about people who post here as you have been wrong about Jackie and her career.
As far as Trump and the Republican party goes I don't think they are far enough to the right.
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