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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 11:24:03 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel likes attacking American artist so sad! Comes here and trashes the United States 🇺🇸!
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 6, 2024 11:36:02 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel likes attacking American artist so sad! Comes here and trashes the United States 🇺🇸!
Bingo! He's so transparent. So much like simsy giving an "unlike" to anyone who's more popular than his perfect little Princess. It infuriates him. The obvious jealously me smile everytime.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2024 11:40:46 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel likes attacking American artist so sad! Comes here and trashes the United States 🇺🇸!
I would ask Emily Bear publicly if she is nuts if doing this…it really never works…it really worked a a shock moment the first time…when Taylor Swift did it..tons of artists ..literally thousands tried the same..but the surprise factor was gone..now fans are only annoyed..they are angry..oh yeah a new album..boring Btw. no business would marketing itself like this…keep things secret…no way…every burger will plaster every corner of a city… They would make photos of delicious food…show the process of cooking etc…. Btw. you all ..everyone hates spam, call center phone calls..and a generic Grace Vanderwaal phone number..this os even worse. Martin Luther and his influencer Lukas Cranach rotate in grave..about such stupidity..one does not destroy a brand to have success..
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 11:50:18 GMT -5
Bingo! He's so transparent. So much like simsy giving an "unlike" to anyone who's more popular than his perfect little Princess. It infuriates him. The obvious jealously me smile everytime.
It's obvious he applies double standards when it comes to his favorites. He will put down others as lacking musical integrity when his own favorite (Emily Bear) wrote jingles for Taco Bell. I'm not criticizing her - you have to put food on the table. But let's not pretend she is all about the art when a good percentage of her work is as a gun for hire.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2024 12:03:19 GMT -5
Bingo! He's so transparent. So much like simsy giving an "unlike" to anyone who's more popular than his perfect little Princess. It infuriates him. The obvious jealously me smile everytime.
It's obvious he applies double standards when it comes to his favorites. He will put down others as lacking musical integrity when his own favorite (Emily Bear) wrote jingles for Taco Bell. I'm not criticizing her - you have to put food on the table. But let's not pretend she is all about the art when a good percentage of her work is as a gun for hire.
I am laughing about Grace Vanderwaals marketing abilities..a few weeks ago she gave tipps to JoJo Siwa..what a joke I did not comment on her music..even Hans Zimmer wrote jingles.. Btw. Taco Bell was a bit more than jingle.. The Weight watchers simple start was a jingle..
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2024 12:06:13 GMT -5
Bingo! He's so transparent. So much like simsy giving an "unlike" to anyone who's more popular than his perfect little Princess. It infuriates him. The obvious jealously me smile everytime.
It's obvious he applies double standards when it comes to his favorites. He will put down others as lacking musical integrity when his own favorite (Emily Bear) wrote jingles for Taco Bell. I'm not criticizing her - you have to put food on the table. But let's not pretend she is all about the art when a good percentage of her work is as a gun for hire.
Trump would say „Your fired“ to Grace Vanderwaal..or whomever would think that such a marketing strategy would work
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 14:03:39 GMT -5
It's obvious he applies double standards when it comes to his favorites. He will put down others as lacking musical integrity when his own favorite (Emily Bear) wrote jingles for Taco Bell. I'm not criticizing her - you have to put food on the table. But let's not pretend she is all about the art when a good percentage of her work is as a gun for hire.
Trump would say „Your fired“ to Grace Vanderwaal..or whomever would think that such a marketing strategy would work
At least one of us has worked in marketing before, and I guess you haven't. This move is obviously aimed at her fans (who else would pay attention to her IG) and the way to judge is by her fans reactions. Comments on forums had been pretty much meh over the last few years only perking up when she did something (e.g., Megalopolis, Cannes). When she cleared her IG yesterday, her forums suddenly lit up and it's been going non-stop since and they are all hyped. Now if she doesn't follow through and release something it (it wouldn't be the first time) would be a "girl who cried wolf" move and people might jump ship. But right now it looks like her fans are hyped. She is also timing this right as she just did a photoshoot with L'Beaut, Megalopolis is due for September release in Imax, and she will even appear in comic book form. As long as she releases a single and an album, her recording career will be just fine. Her acting/modeling career are in even better shape.
Take a look at Google trends for Emily and you will see that, not surprisingly, her peaks of interest were when she was doing the whole Bridgerton project and then when the following award season kicked in for the release ( here ). Yet, even then, compare the trends for Grace in the same time period ( here ), Grace's trends dwarf Emily's. Hell, Jackie consistently beats her ( here ).
None of this takes away from Emily's talent which is immense. But she is best as a "behind the scenes" rather than front and center figure. She is excellent at scoring, is a great pianist, and can write musicals but she will never be a front line figure in anything other than jazz and there as a composer and instrumentalist. She is not a bad singer but there is neither a great singer nor a distinctive one. As a potential pop singer, she really didn't do that well. Her pop songs sound like they are about some fictional character in a musical rather than attempting to be confessional.
Finally, Emily doesn't really have any innate charisma ... whatever charisma she has comes from her instrumental prowess. Jackie has that "girl next door/every old person's ideal grand daughter" thing while Grace is a poster child for the "manic pixie dream girl" trope. While neither Grace nor Jackie have huge fan bases, they do have fan bases. I see no reason to think Emily has one to even a minute degree. Her biggest successes were derivative: no one went to a Beyonce concert to see Emily play piano - she was just another session musician no more important than the drummer or sax player. Her musical success with Bridgerton was a result of the fanbase for the television show. She gets props for choosing a good vehicle and going a great job with the songs, but let's not kid ourselves that its popularity were not from the TV series. She could have done the same with Stranger Things but a less popular TV show turned musical would have been ignored. Whatever small fanbase she has is primarily theater kids and high school and college composition majors who might see her as an inspiration and role model.
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 14:26:40 GMT -5
I am laughing about Grace Vanderwaals marketing abilities..a few weeks ago she gave tipps to JoJo Siwa..what a joke I did not comment on her music..even Hans Zimmer wrote jingles.. Btw. Taco Bell was a bit more than jingle.. Grace was giving advice on how to change her image. It turns out she was pretty much correct as Jojo has become a laughing stock with the people she was trying to impress. She still has most of her younger fans (who have gotten older anyway) but the attempt to try and make herself seem edgy made her meme material. Her advice was to do it in a more chill fashion by just changing wardrobe, maturing her music, and acting like an adult. Jojo's music and visuals haven't really changed other than periodically screaming about being gay and going from rainbow with sparkles to black with sparkles. She now looks like My Little Goth Pony.
The Taco Bell musical was a joke. It already has been pulled off Spotify. Sorry, but it really was jingle level music pretending to be a short musical. i get that she was maybe trying to use jingle type elements in a "self aware wink and a nod" sort of way, but it just came off as tacky.
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 14:42:52 GMT -5
Grace apparently did another photoshoot with the same photographer as she used in the L'Beaut shoot. From his post, this appears it may be connected to Megalopolis. I am using a link rather than embedding the Instagram post as this video is not exactly family friendly. Everyone upset at some of Jackie's supposedly risque photos may now see them as pretty tame.
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Post by Grace Fan on Aug 6, 2024 15:05:16 GMT -5
Grace apparently did another photoshoot with the same photographer as she used in the L'Beaut shoot. From his post, this appears it may be connected to Megalopolis. I am using a link rather than embedding the Instagram post as this video is not exactly family friendly. Everyone upset at some of Jackie's supposedly risque photos may now see them as pretty tame.
That's from the same L'BEAUTÉ photoshoot. That account is also her hair and makeup artist. Not the photographer. I'd also hardly call it "risque" considering she's not revealing anything. She's essentially wearing a bathing suit. Didn't Jackie do a topless or nude photoshoot (covering her chest with her arms)? Nothing wrong with that, but just saying, Grace hasn't done anything so revealing.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Aug 6, 2024 15:30:24 GMT -5
I am laughing about Grace Vanderwaals marketing abilities..a few weeks ago she gave tipps to JoJo Siwa..what a joke I did not comment on her music..even Hans Zimmer wrote jingles.. Btw. Taco Bell was a bit more than jingle.. Grace was giving advice on how to change her image. It turns out she was pretty much correct as Jojo has become a laughing stock with the people she was trying to impress. She still has most of her younger fans (who have gotten older anyway) but the attempt to try and make herself seem edgy made her meme material. Her advice was to do it in a more chill fashion by just changing wardrobe, maturing her music, and acting like an adult. Jojo's music and visuals haven't really changed other than periodically screaming about being gay and going from rainbow with sparkles to black with sparkles. She now looks like My Little Goth Pony.
The Taco Bell musical was a joke. It already has been pulled off Spotify. Sorry, but it really was jingle level music pretending to be a short musical. i get that she was maybe trying to use jingle type elements in a "self aware wink and a nod" sort of way, but it just came off as tacky.
Mr Trump …lying does not work in modern times..I just checked ..it is still there Yes, it was no Mozart, Beethoven..lol..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal‘s recent!!!!! releases..not the old ones ..it was a big hit btw. you know..that I never took Jojo Siwa serious..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal still a champion in making money… And again…when it comes to music… it seems Grace will have the same future as JE..
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Post by colt46 on Aug 6, 2024 15:38:40 GMT -5
Eulenspiegel thank for the optimism with Jackie I appreciate that ,the same goes for Grace, so glad you admit you were wrong!
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 15:40:09 GMT -5
Grace apparently did another photoshoot with the same photographer as she used in the L'Beaut shoot. From his post, this appears it may be connected to Megalopolis. I am using a link rather than embedding the Instagram post as this video is not exactly family friendly. Everyone upset at some of Jackie's supposedly risque photos may now see them as pretty tame.
That's from the same L'BEAUTÉ photoshoot. That account is also her hair and makeup artist. Not the photographer. I'd also hardly call it "risque" considering she's not revealing anything. She's essentially wearing a bathing suit. Didn't Jackie do a topless or nude photoshoot (covering her chest with her arms)? Nothing wrong with that, but just saying, Grace hasn't done anything so revealing. It's a strange thing because people get triggered by omly one of two things that are equally revealing. For example, underwear is no more revealing than a sports bra and running shorts and often less revealing than a swimsuit or dance costume but I guess people freak out when they see lace. You might remember some years ago when Grace went cliff diving with friends or siblings and some people freaked because it looked like she jumped off in her underwear. She ended up taking the pics down but later was photographed at a pool in the same outfit and it was ckearly a bathing suit. Nothing more would have shown had it been her underwear but apparently underwear is forbudden to be seen for young women ... young men display their underwear freely. In this pic, nothing more shows than in a bikini but it has a stripper/ Vegas showgirl vibe that upsets people. It doesn't upset me, but I figured I would avoid any drama.
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Post by msims on Aug 6, 2024 15:46:13 GMT -5
@socal fan please move these posts to an off thread as they are off topic
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 6, 2024 16:10:28 GMT -5
Grace was giving advice on how to change her image. It turns out she was pretty much correct as Jojo has become a laughing stock with the people she was trying to impress. She still has most of her younger fans (who have gotten older anyway) but the attempt to try and make herself seem edgy made her meme material. Her advice was to do it in a more chill fashion by just changing wardrobe, maturing her music, and acting like an adult. Jojo's music and visuals haven't really changed other than periodically screaming about being gay and going from rainbow with sparkles to black with sparkles. She now looks like My Little Goth Pony.
The Taco Bell musical was a joke. It already has been pulled off Spotify. Sorry, but it really was jingle level music pretending to be a short musical. i get that she was maybe trying to use jingle type elements in a "self aware wink and a nod" sort of way, but it just came off as tacky.
Mr Trump …lying does not work in modern times..I just checked ..it is still there Yes, it was no Mozart, Beethoven..lol..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal‘s recent!!!!! releases..not the old ones ..it was a big hit btw. you know..that I never took Jojo Siwa serious..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal still a champion in making money… And again…when it comes to music… it seems Grace will have the same future as JE..
Yes, it was no Mozart, Beethoven..lol..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal‘s recent!!!!! releases..not the old ones ..it was a big hit
Really?? Well, let's check ...
The three songs on Mexican Pizza have streamed the following totals: 44,421; 27,361; 27,574 on Spotify. Last year Grace threw out a five year old reject from her last album ("Boyfriends") and it has streamed so far 683,653. The last newly recorded single she released was a year earlier with "Lion's Den" at 2,163,901. Other new songs a year before that were "Don't Assume What You Don't Know" at 8,741,708 and Repeat at 3,225,350. Even the original she thew on the second Stargirl movie ("Figure it Out") that doesn't even appear under her name streamed 384,148. As a mater of fact, covers she did on that film with her playing on a uke and nothing else got more than those three Taco Bell songs combined. So what statistics were you using to determine which were bigger hits?
btw. you know..that I never took Jojo Siwa serious..but compared to Grace Vanderwaal still a champion in making money…
Apart from major superstars, no one will make money as Jojo Siwa has. But being strictly a little kids star has ax expiration date. But if it comes to that, Jojo can spend the rest of her life counting her money, so no worries.
As for the Mexican Pizza on Spotify, I had looked on Emily's own page and it does not appear. Bridgerton does but not this one. It does apparently appear under Barlowe and Bear (didn't look there - my bad). It probably only can be pulled with Taco Bell's agreement but Emily dropped it (but not Bridgerton $$$ ) from her page. Can't say I blame her.
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