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Post by msims on Sept 21, 2024 19:44:57 GMT -5
How many years has Jackie supported that family. Yet none of them could help keep up her main official site.
It's not like she would be asking some of them to help cut the grass. The dictionary should just have their pictures under the word Deadbeats.
She's an adult who is barely working... She has worked since the age of 10 and done so well that it: physically upset people like you/Caz for years so much so (and opera critics who only hear technique like that guest from a few months ago) that you and your other personalities/aliases all of which are liberal have to spam multiple threads on this forum (this thread being for General Discussions about Jackie) with potatohead spam and the other for off topic posts with political spam with multiple links, not even the actual political thread (renaming the off topic posts to a political thread would mean not having to move anything). You were successful in your scheme in your ability to aid Rickky in gaslighting colt into thinking fact free nonsense about Jackie's Parents. Fact: Her Parents set her up for success and she doesn't have to work as hard as the so called peers according to Rickky, those peers who can't sing but can strip in order to get attention and engagement on social media. |
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Post by msims on Sept 21, 2024 19:49:20 GMT -5
Jackie embraced it long after it should have just been a stepping stone. I think Jackie would love to be a pop singer rather than a CC singer. She has tried for a long time to move to pop but, unfortunately, the public does not seem interested. So she has been forced to stay a CC singer. Again you are obtuse and disingenuous. Its been explained a hundred times: crossover means crossing into other genres such as pop, musical theater, popular classical, folk, traditional, and Christmas material is sung. Its about mainstream appeal. |
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Post by richard on Sept 21, 2024 20:22:14 GMT -5
She's an adult who is barely working... She has worked since the age of 10 and done so well that it: physically upset people like you/Caz for years so much so (and opera critics who only hear technique like that guest from a few months ago) that you and your other personalities/aliases all of which are liberal have to spam multiple threads on this forum (this thread being for General Discussions about Jackie) with potatohead spam and the other for off topic posts with political spam with multiple links, not even the actual political thread (renaming the off topic posts to a political thread would mean not having to move anything). You were successful in your scheme in your ability to aid Rickky in gaslighting colt into thinking fact free nonsense about Jackie's Parents. Fact: Her Parents set her up for success and she doesn't have to work as hard as the so called peers according to Rickky, those peers who can't sing but can strip in order to get attention and engagement on social media. They set her up for failure across the board. She has a lot more health and mental problems than anyone mentioned here. Yes everyone works harder than Jackie but their careers are way ahead of hers. Jackie said herself she is going from classical to pop music. |
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Post by Caz and Friends on Sept 21, 2024 22:30:53 GMT -5
I think Jackie would love to be a pop singer rather than a CC singer. She has tried for a long time to move to pop but, unfortunately, the public does not seem interested. So she has been forced to stay a CC singer. Again you are obtuse and disingenuous. Its been explained a hundred times: crossover means crossing into other genres such as pop, musical theater, popular classical, folk, traditional, and Christmas material is sung. Its about mainstream appeal. Again, you are addled by consuming too many bath salts. It has been explained to you a thousand times. Classical crossover means crossing over into other genres while maintaining classical elements. When Jackie sings a pop song, she is singing pop. When she sings a pop song and combines it with classical elements, she is singing classical crossover. The mainstream appeal comes from combining a classical element with a different genre Classical crossover music is a genre that combines classical music with popular music styles, or performs popular music in a classical style. It can include:
Classical music performed in a modern style
This could be a modern rendition of a classical piece, or a unique arrangement of a classical piece. Popular music performed in a classical style
This could be a popular performer adapting their music into a classical style, or a collaboration between classical and popular performers. Original music performed in a classical style
This could be music that musicians conceive and perform in a classical style. What do all of these have in common? If you said "classical", you have guessed correctly. |
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Post by Caz the Liberal Potatohead on Sept 21, 2024 22:51:01 GMT -5
She's an adult who is barely working... She has worked since the age of 10 and done so well that it: physically upset people like you/Caz for years so much so (and opera critics who only hear technique like that guest from a few months ago) that you and your other personalities/aliases all of which are liberal have to spam multiple threads on this forum (this thread being for General Discussions about Jackie) with potatohead spam and the other for off topic posts with political spam with multiple links, not even the actual political thread (renaming the off topic posts to a political thread would mean not having to move anything). You were successful in your scheme in your ability to aid Rickky in gaslighting colt into thinking fact free nonsense about Jackie's Parents. Fact: Her Parents set her up for success and she doesn't have to work as hard as the so called peers according to Rickky, those peers who can't sing but can strip in order to get attention and engagement on social media. It's pretty insulting to insinuate that Colt can't think for himself. He seems pretty bright to me since he doesn't lap up your BS ramblings. It's a good thing that Jackie never shows any skin to get attention       |
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Post by Rightwing Conspiracy Theorist on Sept 21, 2024 23:06:56 GMT -5
Yeah, it's been that way for quite a while now. How many years has Jackie supported that family. Yet none of them could help keep up her main official site.
It's not like she would be asking some of them to help cut the grass. The dictionary should just have their pictures under the word Deadbeats.
Yep. Once that family moved into the mansion on Jackie's dime, they became sponges and not much more. |
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Post by colt46 on Sept 22, 2024 8:16:23 GMT -5
The whole family of Jackie’s could have done more to help her ! Her siblings did nothing to contribute!
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Post by msims on Sept 22, 2024 16:43:16 GMT -5
I think Jackie would love to be a pop singer rather than a CC singer. She has tried for a long time to move to pop but, unfortunately, the public does not seem interested. So she has been forced to stay a CC singer. Again you are obtuse and disingenuous. Its been explained a hundred times: crossover means crossing into other genres such as pop, musical theater, popular classical, folk, traditional, and Christmas material is sung. Its about mainstream appeal.  A point or place of crossing from one side or the other The process of achieving success in a different field or style, especially in popular music. Jackie was never a trained classical vocalist and its not required, she is merely interpreting and/or adapting the material to her voice. CC is a BROAD genre. Ive said this for OVER a decade. |
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Post by donkey on Sept 22, 2024 16:54:24 GMT -5
Wikipedia:
Classical crossover broadly encompasses BOTH classical music that has become popularized AND a wide variety of popular music forms performed in a classical manner or by classical artists. It can also refer to collaborations between classical and popular performers, as well as music that blends elements of classical music (including operatic and symphonic) with popular music (including pop, rock, middle of the road, and Latin, among other types). Pop vocalists and musicians, opera singers, classical instrumentalists, and occasionally rock groups primarily perform classical crossover. Although the phenomenon has long been widespread in the music industry, record companies first used the term "classical crossover" in the 1980s.[3] It has gained in popularity since the 1990s and has acquired its own Billboard chart.[3]
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Post by BOGC on Sept 22, 2024 16:55:22 GMT -5
The whole family of Jackie’s could have done more to help her ! Her siblings did nothing to contribute! Not true. Juliet (still Jacob then) did a duet on MOTM/SFTSS. Rachel (finally) did a couple of duets in a fairly recent concert. One or another of them would run back-stage errands at least for reasonably near home performances. Zach and Rachel worked the merch table on at least one occasion. And of course we have no idea what totally behind-the-scenes work they might have done. Probably not a lot, but probably some. They all had opportunities to participate as willing and able. Zach doesn't like the spotlight, but even he participated some. That doesn't mean any of them have become photo or social media or website experts. But they do have their own lives, too. |
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Post by msims on Sept 22, 2024 17:14:37 GMT -5
Wikipedia: Classical crossover broadly encompasses BOTH classical music that has become popularized AND a wide variety of popular music forms performed in a classical manner or by classical artists. If you read the entire paragraph (a definition btw that was already written before or early on in Jackie's career and well before Stirling) it states that this material is performed both by classical and pop singers (Nessun Dorma for instance has been sung by Michael Bolton and Aretha etc). In other words: it could be interpreted multiple ways. Closer by Josh Groban, BOGC has referenced the song You Raise Me Up, there is essentially nothing classical about that album and yet it was the biggest CC release of that decade. The Debut I think debuted at #1 on the Classical/CC Billboard charts and theres nothing classical about it. Disc Two of Two Hearts is simply pop but because Disc One contains CC it debuted #1 on the C/CC BB charts. www.classical-crossover.co.uk/help/utrophy-faq/142.html (again a very old definition) Track lists frequently consist of: traditional songs (e.g. ‘Danny Boy’, ‘Scarborough Fair’), standards (e.g. ‘Over the Rainbow’, ‘Bridge Over Troubled Water’), hymns (e.g. Abide With Me), classic showtunes (e.g. ‘Somewhere’, ‘Music of the Night’), film scores (’Now We Are Free’, ‘Nella Fantasia’) and light classical pieces (e.g. Andrew Lloyd Webber’s ‘Pie Jesu’, all versions of ‘Ave Maria’, ‘Panis Angelicus’) Jackie was asked on her social media about moving away from "classical" she has done so for a long time and the fact is you could release something like Solla or Two Hearts Disc Two and go back to doing CC material because that is her choice. |
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Post by donkey on Sept 22, 2024 20:00:08 GMT -5
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Post by Caz and the Russian Bots on Sept 22, 2024 21:04:10 GMT -5
Again you are obtuse and disingenuous. Its been explained a hundred times: crossover means crossing into other genres such as pop, musical theater, popular classical, folk, traditional, and Christmas material is sung. Its about mainstream appeal. A point or place of crossing from one side or the other The process of achieving success in a different field or style, especially in popular music. Jackie was never a trained classical vocalist and its not required, she is merely interpreting and/or adapting the material to her voice. CC is a BROAD genre. Ive said this for OVER a decade. We can't use the dictionary definition of "crossover" when the genre that Jackie started with is called "classical crossover". There's an emphasis on "Classical". One can't eliminate the word "classical" out of the definition of the genre and expect to derive the same meaning. CC is a broad genre, but in each and every instance, there is an element of "classical". That's why it is called CLASSICAL crossover. Classical crossover: a genre that blends classical music with contemporary styles, featuring classical vocal techniques and instrumentation alongside modern elements dictionary.langeek.co/en/word/219848Classical crossover is popular music recorded or performed in a classical music style. Classical crossover music may feature operatic vocals, orchestral instruments, arrangements typically associated with classical music, or modern renditions of classical pieces. Classical crossover songs can adhere to a strict interpretation of a classical piece, an altogether unique arrangement that frames a classical piece in a new manner, or original music that musicians conceive and perform in a classical style. www.masterclass.com/articles/classical-crossover-music-guide#56s9sePjgp93sLghqP3tUrThe term “classical crossover” came into prominence in the 1990s when Billboard, a music industry trade magazine, granted the genre its own chart. (Before Jackie was born) Numerous recordings from the mid-twentieth century also belong to the genre. It does not matter whether Jackie was trained as a classical artist or not, the genre she started with is classical crossover. Her new EP is not classical crossover, it is pop. The application of the word crossover can be applied to this situation as she has crossed over from classical crossover to pop. But, when she sings "Behind My Eyes" she is singing a pop song, not a classical crossover song. |
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 22, 2024 21:37:50 GMT -5
Grace's return to music seems to be going very well. She has released two singles ("Call It What You Want" and "What's Left of Me") within weeks of each other. So far, CIWYW already has 430k streams on Spotify with the video getting 473k streams on YouTube and the lyric video getting an additional 34k. Since its release a few days ago, WLOM has been doing even better by already getting 100k streams on Spotify while its video is now over 200k views. This success is further reflected by Spotify not only adding "What's Left of Me" to one of its biggest playlists but giving it the top spot on the playlist.
The Sad Hour playlist is one of Spotify's curated playlists that specialize in a particular musical mood - in this case, sad songs with a lot of them, like WLOM, being breakup songs. The playlist currently has 2 million followers. That doesn't mean Grace will get 2 million streams out of it, but when anyone listens to the list, Grace's song will be the first one played. The more subscribers the list has, the more additional streams and monthly listeners she gets. Not only do these playlists get an artist additional streams, but they expose the artist to an audience that might not have listened to them otherwise.
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Post by donkey on Sept 22, 2024 21:47:35 GMT -5
Hey Socal...time to change the banner, I do believe. lol
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