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Post by msims on Aug 9, 2024 13:01:22 GMT -5
So that doesn’t make Jackie a bad person just because she doesn’t have friends! Shes been pictured with friends over the years and I dont think shes ever said she doesn't have friends. And to Rickkys point about winning, that doesn't matter. She was offered a contract by ALL the majors (not just sony) the next day, again if the posters were around back then they would have perspective.
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Post by richard on Aug 9, 2024 13:29:27 GMT -5
So that doesn’t make Jackie a bad person just because she doesn’t have friends! Shes been pictured with friends over the years and I dont think shes ever said she doesn't have friends. And to Rickkys point about winning, that doesn't matter. She was offered a contract by ALL the majors (not just sony) the next day, again if the posters were around back then they would have perspective. It's been posted before where Jackie said she doesn't have friends.
You have no idea what Jackie was offered. But what ever they went with Lisa complained the next few years about them. Especially not making any money of her record sales.
All you can do is keep bring up the past, this is where Jackie is now, and where are all these concerts and PR you claimed she is going to get when her new album comes out.
Jackie spotify numbers are down again to 136,037 Monthly Listeners.
While Kenzie are rising she is now at 2,252,221 Monthly Listeners
Both just release a new album.
July 23 numbers
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Post by colt46 on Aug 9, 2024 14:07:43 GMT -5
I know Jackie isn’t popular, It doesn’t stop me from being a fan ! Like I said before I love Jackie’s voice!
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Post by msims on Aug 9, 2024 14:11:32 GMT -5
Shes been pictured with friends over the years and I dont think shes ever said she doesn't have friends. And to Rickkys point about winning, that doesn't matter. She was offered a contract by ALL the majors (not just sony) the next day, again if the posters were around back then they would have perspective. It's been posted before where Jackie said she doesn't have friends.
Gaslighting
You have no idea what Jackie was offered. But what ever they went with Lisa complained the next few years about them. Especially not making any money of her record sales.
You don't know know what Jackie was offered but I do because Lisa said so on amazon. And you want me to believe that Jackie wasnt paid but amg's favorite was paid.
All you can do is keep bring up the past, this is where Jackie is now, and where are all these concerts and PR you claimed she is going to get when her new album comes out.
Jackie spotify numbers are down again to 136,037 Monthly Listeners.
Her fans don't prefer spotify, they purchase whether its digital or physical.
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Post by colt46 on Aug 9, 2024 14:30:28 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like Jackie is homeless or lives in a dump of a house! I thought you knew were Jackie lives Richard ! Knowing exactly were she lives!
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Post by richard on Aug 9, 2024 15:25:57 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like Jackie is homeless or lives in a dump of a house! I thought you knew were Jackie lives Richard ! Knowing exactly were she lives! I know exactly where she lives in a condo in Wexford Pa. If you think she lives somewhere show us. I can and have matched up post of Jackie with the realtor pictures and posted them here.
Several of the pictures of Jackie in NYC were posted from Christina 's place.
Moderator note: Picture of Jackie's home is removed. Please don't post anything that could identify Jackie's home (PA or NY or anywhere else).
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 9, 2024 16:38:44 GMT -5
It doesn’t look like Jackie is homeless or lives in a dump of a house! I thought you knew were Jackie lives Richard ! Knowing exactly were she lives! I know exactly where she lives in a condo in Wexford Pa. If you think she lives somewhere show us. I can and have matched up post of Jackie with the realtor pictures and posted them here.
Several of the pictures of Jackie in NYC were posted from Christina 's place.
Moderator note: Picture of Jackie's home is removed. Please don't post anything that could identify Jackie's home (PA or NY or anywhere else). That doesn't look like a condo to me. If it's a single dwelling, it's a house, if it's attached, it's a townhouse.
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Post by Grace Fan on Aug 9, 2024 16:51:14 GMT -5
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Post by colt46 on Aug 9, 2024 17:04:47 GMT -5
Grace looked and sounded great! Thanks for posting Grace fan!
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 9, 2024 17:15:58 GMT -5
M&L&J were Trailblazers, Innovators. Sorry, but stagemomagers and whipped husbands are not an innovation.
she set a path for other child singers on the show
I agree she set a path for girls who sing some sort of variant on classical or CC singing on AGT as her success opened a pathway for others - whether it be parents getting their daughters training or young girls who were already training to give it a shot. I think AGT had frowned on pushing kids acts on AGT for a few years after Bianca Ryan's (season 1 winner) career floundered and this may have encouraged them to import some of the European girls who later appeared on AGT after competing in their home countries.
AGT had its biggest ratings.
The reason AGT had big ratings is because it had wider appeal. There were three major competitors that year (Jackie, Michael Grimm, and Prince Poppycock) all of whom had followings and their fans were watching every show they appeared in that season. This made the finals with all three go through the roof. When everyone knows who will win, you don't have that level of excitement. But to pretend it was all about Jackie is revisionist history.
The Voice came a year after Jackie's run. Piers and Sharon got their own shows. Little Big Shots.
Those programs were already in the making before this season even took place. The Voice was far less influenced by AGT than it was by American Idol.
But still none of those child singers that came after sold a million copies in just six weeks.
But what did Mike and Lisa have to do with that beyond Lisa's determination that I mentioned earlier. it was AGT that ended up getting Jackie top flight handlers for the program for controlling her voice and then their agreement with Sony got her signed to a major label and her CD promoted. So she had a very good start to her career. You have insinuated in the past that Columbia screwed her over in terms of the contract and I wasn't following her then so I won't comment on that point. However, if it is true, that only underscores why they needed people working for Jackie's and their interests who understood the crap big corporations try to get over on people.
I understand though that the Jackie fans were pushed away with the attacks on Jackie, her family, and her fans and therefore the only other topic is your favorite or Rickky's favorite whos both attempting to be "sexy" to get past their child star days and Jackie has done some of that but shes also a vocalist, and unless she chooses to quit, theres always going to be gigs. It is not unusual for teenage girls to dress "sexier' that they did when they were 10-12 years old. Particularly when they are doing modeling gigs in fashion magazines where they are being paid to where such clothing. When Jackie appeared in a few photoshoots, she did, as you mentioned, some of that herself. The reason Grace or others do more of this is because they work more regularly as models. There is also a difference between how young women dress when they are going out to a club, a party, or the beach as opposed to going to work. You can't separate photos from context. If Jackie, Grace, or anyone else wore a risque outfit in a photoshoot for a magazine or a Halloween party and a bikini to the beach, I would think nothing of it. If they wore such an outfit to a formal gathering or to church, I would think them a bit lacking in class.
However you have referred to your favorite's unprofessional behavior, not me.
As I said, I have no problem criticizing artists I follow when they act unprofessionally. Grace had, in the live performance I attended, been quite a dynamo. During the pandemic, they had arranged a concert with various artists doing a 20 mins to half an hour and she was somewhere in the middle. I expected it to be acoustic given the situation but she seemed rushed, not that well rehearsed, used a cheap uke as accompaniment even though she owns professional quality ukes (bearing her name no less) and guitars. This had more the feel of one of her IG lives where she's just having fun with fans and being loose and free with everything but I think she did the audience and herself a disservice by not taking the event more seriously. In a similar vein, I had criticized Jackie's stilted attempts at stagecraft while singing some Queen's "Somebody to Love." It convinced me at the time that Jackie had no chance of being a pop singer because she would never be comfortable displaying any natural emotion associated with that genre. It turned out I was wrong as she did it incredibly well on TMS with a very challenging song ("Dangerous Woman"). But that still doesn't change how uncomfortable she looked trying to channel Freddy Mercury's over the top stage presence.
Someone else whos unprofessional behavior was brought up in headlines was Lauren Hill who had to cancel her tour for ticket sales due to the issues of unprofessional behavior. This behavior has happened a lot in pop music because of lifestyle casualties (Sly Stone, Jim Morrison, etc.) and in her case this may have been a mixture of drugs and mental illness.
And you know Jackie has friends, just because she doesn't post them on instagram doesn't mean she doesn't have friends.
Jackie has posted more than usual on Instagram in the last year and, through most of that period, Mike was by her side and friends weren't. I really believe that the making of Solla has added a lot to her confidence and she now feels comfortable in situations she wasn't a year ago. Having people at her label encouraging her has a lot to do with that and she has met people in the industry and now seems much more comfortable making friends outside her immediate family. That is a good thing and I'm not criticizing it. Like I said, I really do think Mike has her best interests at heart but has been a tad overprotective as this is just how the dynamic evolved after her eating disorder and accident. It is a good thing that he is letting her live life on her own.
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Post by Grace Fan on Aug 9, 2024 18:24:44 GMT -5
As I said, I have no problem criticizing artists I follow when they act unprofessionally. Grace had, in the live performance I attended, been quite a dynamo. During the pandemic, they had arranged a concert with various artists doing a 20 mins to half an hour and she was somewhere in the middle. I expected it to be acoustic given the situation but she seemed rushed, not that well rehearsed, used a cheap uke as accompaniment even though she owns professional quality ukes (bearing her name no less) and guitars. This had more the feel of one of her IG lives where she's just having fun with fans and being loose and free with everything but I think she did the audience and herself a disservice by not taking the event more seriously. The only event I can think of that you might be referring to is the performance she did for her local Rockland County food pantry on April 11, 2020. I'm not sure what "unprofessionalism" you're referring to. Other than her not using the uke you'd prefer, she performed well, and even used electric guitar for a Jason Mraz cover at the end that the hosts of the event were wowed by. She was live for around 15 minutes.
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Post by donkey on Aug 9, 2024 18:52:35 GMT -5
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Post by richard on Aug 9, 2024 18:57:23 GMT -5
I know exactly where she lives in a condo in Wexford Pa. If you think she lives somewhere show us. I can and have matched up post of Jackie with the realtor pictures and posted them here.
Several of the pictures of Jackie in NYC were posted from Christina 's place.
Moderator note: Picture of Jackie's home is removed.
Please don't post anything that could identify Jackie's home (PA or NY or anywhere else).
That doesn't look like a condo to me. If it's a single dwelling, it's a house, if it's attached, it's a townhouse. It is one of three attached units. Someone that knew all about where Jackie lived said it was a condo. Either way this is where Jackie and Mike live it hasn't been sold lately. So it must still be in Mike's name.
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Post by 1 Guest on Aug 9, 2024 18:59:59 GMT -5
That doesn't look like a condo to me. If it's a single dwelling, it's a house, if it's attached, it's a townhouse. It is one of three attached units. Someone that knew all about where Jackie lived said it was a condo. Either way this is where Jackie and Mike live it hasn't been sold lately. So it must still be in Mike's name. It's a nice townhouse and if it's in his name, then he doesn't rent it, he owns it.
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Post by colt46 on Aug 9, 2024 19:00:39 GMT -5
But who’s money payed for it ?
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