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Post by donkey on Sept 8, 2024 9:23:41 GMT -5
Little 5'1" Jackie in India? Yeah, I feel much better with dad along. He's like her bodyguard. And Jenna is smaller than Jackie and few years younger. Maddie Ziegler is even younger than Jenna Ortega and she is filming in Budapest now, Maddie moved out on her own when she was 14 from Pittsburgh to LA. and at 14 she would take frequent flights on her own to different parts of the world sometimes flying to Australia to see her boyfriend taking vacation with her friends or even flying to Atlanta Georgia for a sleepover at Millie Bobby Brown's home. Jackie seems to be about 14 years old mentally. Seems one thing all the young artist that are doing well as an adult artist has one thing in common and that is they all seem very independent. I think that is what they like most about doing what they do is because of the independence it gives them that they can just up and go where they want with who they want when they want.
Just saying I don't think there is anything the slightest bit weird about a 24 year old woman traveling to a country on the other side of the globe with her dad (and business manager). Happens all the time. There may be a lot of things that Jackie should be doing on her own that she's not doing on her own, but I don't think this is the best example of that.
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2024 10:16:33 GMT -5
Just saying I don't think there is anything the slightest bit weird about a 24 year old woman traveling to a country on the other side of the globe with her dad (and business manager). Happens all the time. There may be a lot of things that Jackie should be doing on her own that she's not doing on her own, but I don't think this is the best example of that. We are not talking one time or just a few times. We are talking every time. At 24 years old others would be taking their boyfriend or girlfriend not their Daddy.
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Post by donkey on Sept 8, 2024 10:24:08 GMT -5
Just saying I don't think there is anything the slightest bit weird about a 24 year old woman traveling to a country on the other side of the globe with her dad (and business manager). Happens all the time. There may be a lot of things that Jackie should be doing on her own that she's not doing on her own, but I don't think this is the best example of that. We are not talking one time or just a few times. We are talking every time. At 24 years old others would be taking their boyfriend or girlfriend not their Daddy. Now, I agree with that.
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Post by Grace Fan on Sept 8, 2024 11:27:02 GMT -5
Looks like Grace is in Toronto for the Toronto Film Festival. Megalopolis has it's premiere tomorrow night, and it looks like she was at an event for the Golden Globes last night.
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Post by msims on Sept 8, 2024 12:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by colt46 on Sept 8, 2024 12:26:54 GMT -5
I think Lisa and Mike both did Jackie a disservice!
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Post by msims on Sept 8, 2024 12:29:56 GMT -5
I blame Jackie’s father, the way he raised her made her dependent on him ! Jackie is a very timid person, doesn’t do well with those in her age range! Good parenting would have given her the tools necessary to be able to interact with her peers! Mike wanted Jackie to always be dependent on him, he did her a major disservice in the way he raised her! You are entirely misinformed. For a star to work in the music business: they have to have someone around them who helps with the business that they trust. Removing Mike from the situation means she has no one looking out for her best interests and helping her. Ill give you the FACTS that no one else could other than BOGC could give as NO ONE else was here in the early days: M&L's parenting was to protect Jackie and keep her from being overworked as a childSo lets further un-brainwash you. Everyone knows the story of Michael Jackson and its true unless they are like a Susan Boyle and become famous at a much older age: when someone becomes famous they become stunted at the age they became famous. Famous people tend to get alot of attention, some of it is not wanted. They could tend to not be so trustful of others because others could want to get something out of them such as fame and/or money. Lisa has not been involved in Jackie's career in almost a decade but Rickky's favorite lesbian JoJo has always been managed by her Mother. Again you have to understand that trolls project onto Jackie what their other moppets are doing, same as liberals.Jackie's Parents didn't do everything perfectly BUT they didn't let her get exposed to a predator online at age 12 or in the case of Rickky's other favorite Maddie let her come into possible contact with Harvey Weinstein (Quote from reddit: "Sia claimed that she stopped Maddie from getting on a plane with Harvey and she begged Melissa to not let her go on.". Alot of your false information comes from Rickky, Rickky is not a source of information about Jackie's Parents. You have been manipulated by trolls on here and you seem like an older person, so im not okay with that.
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Post by Socal Fan on Sept 8, 2024 13:43:32 GMT -5
when someone becomes famous they become stunted at the age they became famous. Famous people tend to get alot of attention, some of it is not wanted. They could tend to not be so trustful of others because others could want to get something out of them such as fame and/or money. You keep comparing the mental health of Jackie with that of her peers. I do not think that comparison comes out meaning what you think it means.
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2024 14:45:37 GMT -5
Lisa has not been involved in Jackie's career in almost a decade but Rickky's favorite lesbian JoJo has always been managed by her Mother. JoJo is not my favorite but it would be foolish to say she doesn't have a fantastic career. You are the one that claimed JoJo's fame wound not put butts in the seats in a concert and laughed when I said JoJo's "Boomarang" music video would catch up and surpass Jackie's "Apocalypse" If Jackie needed protection it would be from her parents she needed to be protected from. They went through Jackie's money like there would be no end to it. Where did the money from the sale of the big house go to. Jackie's OTTs claimed that the house was in Jackie's name and that she actually owned it. Jackie needs to write a book and then maybe there will come a new law out of it that actually protects young celebrities from greedy parents.
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2024 14:48:14 GMT -5
when someone becomes famous they become stunted at the age they became famous. Famous people tend to get alot of attention, some of it is not wanted. They could tend to not be so trustful of others because others could want to get something out of them such as fame and/or money. You keep comparing the mental health of Jackie with that of her peers. I do not think that comparison comes out meaning what you think it means. No artist I know of has near the mental or physical problems Jackie has. Jackie's parents should have seen what was happening to her long before it got to the point it is now.
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Post by richard on Sept 8, 2024 14:55:36 GMT -5
For a star to work in the music business: they have to have someone around them who helps with the business that they trust. Removing Mike from the situation means she has no one looking out for her best interests and helping her. LOL Who's best interest did Mike and Lisa have. It looks to me they had their own best interest that they were looking out for.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 8, 2024 18:17:09 GMT -5
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Post by donkey on Sept 8, 2024 18:32:48 GMT -5
You keep comparing the mental health of Jackie with that of her peers. I do not think that comparison comes out meaning what you think it means. No artist I know of has near the mental or physical problems Jackie has. Jackie's parents should have seen what was happening to her long before it got to the point it is now. Why are you only comparing her to other artists? Millions of teen girls and young woman have had Jackies mental and health issues, and most of them weren't artists. Since most artists her age don't have these problems, perhaps it doesn't stem from being an artist at all, in which case, why would we compare her to other artists when talking about mental and physical health? And I don't buy that the primary reason for eating disorders, or anxiety, or depression, or a host of other mental illnesses is necessarily the result of "bad parenting"...that a direct cause-effect relationship has been established there. If you know of valid studies done that have demonstrated this to be the case, feel free to share. I am open to being educated on the subject. It's always easy to say, "the parents should have seen it coming", in hindsight. But that's probably quite unfair, especially considering Jackie did as most people with eating disorders do....do their best to hide it. And most parents aren't familiar with eating disorders and don't know what to look for, and even if they did, they likely wouldn't have been looking for it in Jackie if they had no reason to suspect such a thing. And by the way, the family did notice something was wrong at some point, and long before it got to a life threatening state.
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Post by amg1977 on Sept 8, 2024 19:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by Ultrasound Nurse on Sept 8, 2024 19:40:19 GMT -5
I blame Jackie’s father, the way he raised her made her dependent on him ! Jackie is a very timid person, doesn’t do well with those in her age range! Good parenting would have given her the tools necessary to be able to interact with her peers! Mike wanted Jackie to always be dependent on him, he did her a major disservice in the way he raised her! You are entirely misinformed. For a star to work in the music business: they have to have someone around them who helps with the business that they trust. Removing Mike from the situation means she has no one looking out for her best interests and helping her. Ill give you the FACTS that no one else could other than BOGC could give as NO ONE else was here in the early days: M&L's parenting was to protect Jackie and keep her from being overworked as a childSo lets further un-brainwash you. Everyone knows the story of Michael Jackson and its true unless they are like a Susan Boyle and become famous at a much older age: when someone becomes famous they become stunted at the age they became famous. Famous people tend to get alot of attention, some of it is not wanted. They could tend to not be so trustful of others because others could want to get something out of them such as fame and/or money. Lisa has not been involved in Jackie's career in almost a decade but Rickky's favorite lesbian JoJo has always been managed by her Mother. Again you have to understand that trolls project onto Jackie what their other moppets are doing, same as liberals.Jackie's Parents didn't do everything perfectly BUT they didn't let her get exposed to a predator online at age 12 or in the case of Rickky's other favorite Maddie let her come into possible contact with Harvey Weinstein (Quote from reddit: "Sia claimed that she stopped Maddie from getting on a plane with Harvey and she begged Melissa to not let her go on.". Alot of your false information comes from Rickky, Rickky is not a source of information about Jackie's Parents. You have been manipulated by trolls on here and you seem like an older person, so im not okay with that. It's a fact that I've been around before any of the pretenders here that call themselves fans in this forum. My 24 years of experience includes the time that I was in the clinic with Lisa Evancho, letting her know of the ultrasound results when little Jackie was in the womb. Together, we stood in awe as we could hear Jackie singing, "O Mio Babbino Caro" only 7 months into Lisa's pregnancy. Sims was not in the delivery room, so that means I have 11 more years of experience following Jackie's career than he does. NO ONE here was around in those early days, which makes me the most authoritative and knowledgeable fan in the forum.
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