General Discussion: Entertainment - etc - #5 - Oct 2024 to Present

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Upcoming Concerts

This post will be updated as new concerts are announced. Please inform me when updates or corrections are necessary.
Sister venues are venues operated by the same parent organization, often at the same location. In the past, this was not an issue because Jackie was almost always booked in the largest venue. But it is an issue now because Jackie is almost always booked in the smallest venue.

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Sun Nov 10, Philadelphia, PA, The Foundry, Capacity 250, $27
cdn.brandfolder.io/IW4GVCQ6/at/ktk93w49hbbvgtbbs7mr9n8k/The_Fillmore_Philadelphia_One-Sheet.pdf
Sister Venues: Music Hall 2450, Ajax 300

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Mon Nov 11, Washington, DC, Pearl St Warehouse (Moved from Howard Theater), Cap 250, $29.99 SRO
SRO Capacities: www.unionstagepresents.com/private-events/
Sister Venues: Union Stage 450, Howard 500, Jammin Java 200, Miracle 371 seats, Capital Turnaround 900 seats
ticketweb.com/event/echosmith-cool-kids-howard-theatre-tickets/13796303

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Wed Nov 13, New York, NY, Mercury Lounge 250, $26
Sister Venues: Bowery Ballroom 650 SRO (mercuryeastpresents.com/private-events/)

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Thu Nov 14, Cambridge, MA, Middle East Club Upstairs, Cap 194, $29.99 SRO
Sister Venues: Downstairs 575, Sonia 350, Zuzu 100 (https://mideastclub.com/contact/)
ticketweb.com/event/echosmith-lisa-heller-jackie-evancho-middle-east-upstairs-tickets/13797463

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Wed Nov 20, Chicago, IL, Beat Kitchen, Cap 275, $29.99+$8.30 GA
wl.seetickets.us/event/echosmith-cool-kids-the-decade-tour/613590?afflky=BKBGManagementCo

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Thu Nov 21, Detroit, MI, The Shelter, Cap 400, $37.99 GA Incl Fees
cdn.brandfolder.io/IW4GVCQ6/at/vrcjswvb3tjmkckqshb79m87/St_Andrews_Hall_One-Sheet.pdf
Sister Venues: St Andrews Hall 750
concerts.livenation.com/echosmith-cool-kids-the-decade-tour-detroit-michigan-11-21-2024/event/080060F79DFA236C

2024 Sat Nov 23, Stony Brook NY, Staller Recital Hall, Capacity 380, $56,$66,$76
www.stallercenter.com/about/history.php
Sister Venues: Main Stage 1050
stallercenter.showare.com/orderticketsarea.asp?p=1187&a=32
Ticket Sales 7/4 - 244 sold, 144 unsold
Ticket Sales 8/18 - 295 sold, 93 unsold
Ticket Sales 11/12 - 53 unsold

2024 Tue Dec 3
2024 Wed Dec 4
www.sfsymphony.org/Buy-Tickets/2024-25/Colors-of-Christmas
Guest performer with San Francisco Symphony
Other guests: Peabo Bryson, Jennifer Holliday, BeBe Winans
Davies Symphony Hall, Capacity 2743, Tickets $29-$149

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Sat Dec 7, Phoenix AZ, Valley Bar, Cap 250 SRO, $29.99
$50 add-on for Echosmith Meet & Greet + merch
www.valleybarphx.com/faq/
"Valley Bar can comfortably accommodate roughly 250 guests in the Music Hall."
www.ticketweb.com/event/echosmith-cool-kids-valley-bar-tickets/13603334

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Sun Dec 8, San Diego CA, Voodoo Room - House of Blues, Voodoo Rm, Cap 150, $26.99
cdn.brandfolder.io/IW4GVCQ6/at/wcr3gkm3xk8749q95f4wsgqv/HOB_San_Diego_One-Sheet.pdf
Sister Venues: Music Hall 900
concerts.livenation.com/echosmith-cool-kids-the-decade-tour-san-diego-california-12-08-2024/event/0A006130C7322832

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Mon Dec 9, West Hollywood CA, Roxy Theater, Cap 500, $29.99+$12.38 fees
www.axs.com/events/687363/echosmith-tickets?skin=roxy

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Wed Dec 11, Santa Ana CA, Constellation Room, Cap 200, $37.99
Venue Capacities: Music Hall 1200, Constellation Room 200
cdn.brandfolder.io/IW4GVCQ6/at/53wpxtt5krrmfss5wbqpv/Observatory_OC_One-Sheet.pdf
concerts.livenation.com/echosmith-cool-kids-the-decade-tour-santa-ana-california-12-11-2024/event/09006130D5DC3429

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Thu Dec 12, San Francisco CA, Brick & Mortar Music Hall, Cap 250, $25+$6.84 fees
Sister Venues: None
www.ticketweb.com/event/echosmith-cool-kids-brick-and-mortar-music-hall-tickets/13599944

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Sat Dec 14, Salt Lake City UT, Kilby Court, Cap 200, $29.99+$9.68 service fee+$2.32 tax
www.kilbycourt.com/about
"For music lovers especially, Kilby Court [Capacity 200] is the venue fans like to remember visiting when their favorite artists were just beginning."
Concert promoter is S&S Presents (snspresents.com/about)
"S&S Presents hosts groundbreaking independent touring artists in primarily 200 to 7,000 capacity venues"
www.24tix.com/event/4651866270

Decades Tour - Echosmith, Lisa Heller, Jackie - Standing Room Only
2024 Sun Dec 15, Denver CO, Marquis Theater, Capacity 250, $41.74
cdn.brandfolder.io/IW4GVCQ6/at/ccgvmt3v7rj3gzj9rk4vw5r/Marquis_Theater_One-Sheet.pdf
Sister Venues: None
concerts.livenation.com/echosmith-cool-kids-the-decade-tour-denver-colorado-12-15-2024/event/1E00613032157FAD

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ibb.co/Gc4X1RW - Donkey - Singing in studio
ibb.co/kmgqS7K - Just Somebody - Black jacket
ibb.co/ryLdbCD - Guest 5 - Triple picture - Mon 7/31
ibb.co/FqzfgSs - Donkey - Singing with pianist - Wed 8/2
ibb.co/HP4Cw1M - Donkey - Purple top - Sat 8/5/23
ibb.co/9nzfr1T - Johnnyb-Donkey - White top - Mon 8/7/23
ibb.co/jJ6Xrpj - Just Somebody - Eyes - Sat 8/12/23
ibb.co/rvrVvDZ - Guest 5 - Glittery silver dress - 8/14/23 pm
ibb.co/64bLS6M - Guest 5 - Triple Black Dress - 8/16/23 pm
ibb.co/nL6N68L - Just Somebody - Blurry Jackie - 8/19/23 pm
ibb.co/H7vSjfd - Guest 5 - On Couch with Green-Blue Dress - 8/22/23 pm
ibb.co/yPKB13P - Donkey - Singing with Guitarist - 8/24/2023 pm
ibb.co/9bCKdC2 - Just Somebody - Sunglasses - 8/26/2023 pm
ibb.co/yns5Lmp - Just Somebody - Lovers Drums - 8/30/2023 pm
ibb.co/W6jKvp5 - Guest 5 - Purple Dress, Black Background - 9/2/2023 pm
ibb.co/yNbYxxt - Donkey - Angel Jackie - 9/4/2023 pm
ibb.co/tCbwV7j - Guest 5 - B/W Graphic - 9/6/2023 pm
ibb.co/3kvtSjH - Guest 5 - Jackie Animated - 9/10/2023 pm
ibb.co/cxGb6Ww - Just Somebody - Neon Banner - 9/13/2023 am
ibb.co/RgjZfgc - Donkey - Jackie and DF - 9/16/23 pm
ibb.co/Qj2gS9V - Donkey - Black Dress - 9/18/23 pm
ibb.co/rMg0tq1 - Guest 5 - Behind My Eyes - 9/21/2023 pm
ibb.co/6yzg3Zn - Guest 5 - Blue Shirt - 9/24/2023 am
ibb.co/ZKk3Rm1 - Just Somebody - Blue Boots - 9/26/2023 am
ibb.co/mFVxM0k - Donkey - Black & White Jackie - 9/28/2023 pm
ibb.co/rb2RTrq - Donkey - Sultry Jackie - 9/30/2023 am
ibb.co/bKWrFN4 - Just Somebody - Jungle - 10/03/2023 am
ibb.co/rsv6drL - Just Somebody - Billboard - 10/07/2023 pm
ibb.co/QDzwkh3 - Guest 5 - Rains of Castamere - 10/10/2023 pm
ibb.co/FHW3yYB - Guest 5 - Green Dress - 10/13/2023 pm
ibb.co/tpnRtSK - Guest 5 - Red Dress - 10/15/2023 pm
ibb.co/tMn5Scp - Donkey - Kitty - 10/17/2023 pm
ibb.co/3mn8t1z - Guest 5 - Jackie in Space - 10/20/2023 pm
ibb.co/KyNFZ2T - Guest 5 - Brown Background - 10/22/2023 pm
ibb.co/xJNWwK5 - Guest 5 - SFTSS - 10/25/2023 pm
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ibb.co/RQgJ0LC - Guest 5 - Gold/Black background - 10/30/2023 pm
ibb.co/JkXYbcX - Donkey - Jackie Blonde - 11/6/2023 pm
ibb.co/NFM9Wt6 - Just Somebody - Jackie in Forest - 11/11/23 am
ibb.co/6bTSYny - Guest 5 - Jackie Green Spirals - 11/13/23 pm
ibb.co/SB8MjMS - Guest 5 - Red Background - 11/16/23 pm
ibb.co/w69f4vm - Guest 5 - Psychedelic Lights - 11/18/23 pm
ibb.co/QHCL4z8 - Guest 5 - Geometric Background - 11/25/23 pm
ibb.co/wBhCPSc - Guest 5 - Jackie Consequences - 12/1/23 pm
ibb.co/CwQvPXH - Guest 5 - Blue and Brown background - 12/10/23 pm
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imgbb.com/6D1QBxF - Guest 5 - Blue Background - 12/17/23 pm
ibb.co/6J4NSBc - Saerdna-Socalfan - Guitar background - 12/22/23 pm
ibb.co/p3CjDcs - Socal Fan - Jackie and Santa - 12/25/23 pm
ibb.co/j5c5q9m - Donkey - Tuscany - 12/28/23 pm
ibb.co/5YQvQjm - Socal Fan - Happy New Year! - 12/31/23 pm
ibb.co/31BGS5T - Guest 5 - Red Dress - 1/5/24 am
ibb.co/stx0BHG - Guest 5 -Old and Young - 1/19/24 pm
ibb.co/vQ28B88 - Guest 5 -Purple and Black Background - 1/23/2024 pm
ibb.co/ftDkqtM - Guest 5 -Silver and Black Background - 2/2/2024 pm
ibb.co/wybyyG7 - Guest 5 - Young Jackie - 2/6/2024 pm
ibb.co/qB82bxW - Donkey - Blue dress - 2/23/2024 pm
ibb.co/D9R24nZ - Grither-Donkey - Brick background - 3/7/2024 pm
ibb.co/WH0gPSr - Just Somebody - BME Music Video Origami - 3/29/2024 pm
ibb.co/LxN3LYj - Donkey - BME Video Jackie in Bed - 4/7/2024 pm
ibb.co/PDjVXf5 - Just Somebody - With orchestra - Fri 4/26 pm
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ibb.co/6PpbnT3 - Guest 5 - Grey sweater - 5/19/2024
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ibb.co/st7kgJ0 - Guest 5 - Flowers - 6/26/2024
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ibb.co/3vqk3YL - Guest 5 - US Flag - 7/29/2024
ibb.co/LnhxmWW - Guest 5 - Winter Scene - 8/30/2024
ibb.co/Fb3dx45 - Guest 5 - Vintage Striped Shirt - 9/26/2024

In general, if there are new submissions, the banner image will be changed every 2-3 days. If there are no new submissions in the queue, the banner image will be changed every 4-7 days.

Submissions of banner images are always welcome. Notes: (1) Must be 1000x430 pixels, (2) Must include the text "Jackie Evancho - Amazon Revisited" very prominently displayed, (3) Must be Jackie related, but not necessarily contain Jackie (e.g. can be Jackie fan gathering, Jackie artwork, etc), (4) Can be pic, drawing, collage, or other art, (5) Can include credit (e.g. "Submitted by xxx").

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[richard]

Smims would have you believe you don't make money filling arenas like Madison square gardens you make money by having concerts with less than 500 capacity. Not only are your Rodrigo's, Tate McRae's and Sabrina Carpenters making money selling out arenas but they are probably making a fortune off their merchandise they sell at the concerts.

[BOGC]

Oct 21, 2024 17:39:35 GMT -5 richard said:

Smims would have you believe you don't make money filling arenas like Madison square gardens you make money by having concerts with less than 500 capacity. Not only are your Rodrigo's, Tate McRae's and Sabrina Carpenters making money selling out arenas but they are probably making a fortune off their merchandise they sell at the concerts.

All someone HAS to make is enough to keep a roof over one's head and food on the table, preferably doing something they mostly like doing.

Millions of dollars, views, or fans are at best one sort of measure of success.

Other things that may have nothing to do with career, might even hinder it, could be part of someone's measure of success too.

Comparisions are BS, just a way to pick which measure of success to use to take shots at someone. Expecting someone to have a personality they have not demonstrated having to meet a measure of success they evidently don't view as quite as obsessively as you do (even if they say they want an empire etc) is stupid.

I don't hate nearly anyone's success (although I want to see terrorists and dictators die and major aholes at least learn manners). But I don't care about most of them either.

[msims]

"This claim lacks specific evidence and context. According to available interviews and reports, The Black Keys parted ways with Warner Bros. after frustrations over industry practices, but there's no strong evidence suggesting they were owed money for billions of streams." 

www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/10/29/black-keys-spotify-ceo-call/

Spotify’s CEO Once Called the Black Keys to Explain Why Their Royalties Were So Bad
Paul Resnikoff October 29, 2019

“He basically, without explaining it directly (sounds familiar), was saying that he’s paying our label to get our music,” Carney said. “What they do with the money, he can’t control. At that moment, I realized, ‘oh yeah, there’s some stock being floated to these companies’. Which there was — billions of dollars of stock was sent.”

Suddenly, the bullseye shifted from Spotify to Warner Records, the Black Keys’ record label.

Warner Records, the Black Keys drummer relayed, “gave us like a couple hundred thousand dollars of the billion. They paid it to us in the way the label does: they paid it as an artist royalty and took all these deductions out of it, and it was a made-up number.”

I suggest the bot listen to the full three hour podcast with Joe Rogan and the BK's. These BK guys aren't going to be as stupid to suggest ON SPOTIFY that spotify owes them millions. They could end up being sued and having that podcast removed.

But its quite clear as that article stated that they were not happy with their royalty situation as are many artists. 

And if two bands that sold millions of albums isn't getting paid fairly or treated respectfully by a label, then its not serious/silly to think a new artist would be that signed a deal without yet proving their worth, new artists are signed all the time.

Lisa was transparent with the royalty situation with Jackie's original Columbia deal (richard has repeated what he read from me quoting her years later).

You simply don't have that with amg1977 who can't admit to or take accountability in his word salad paragraphs for being an OTT.

[richard]

Oct 21, 2024 23:52:29 GMT -5 msims said:

Lisa was transparent with the royalty situation with Jackie's original Columbia deal (richard has repeated what he read from me quoting her years later).

No I remembered her writing about it. I was on the original WSJ pages before there was an Amazon site: Lisa even came on the WSJ site once just to call someone a liar. One thing about Lisa she seemed to be truthful to a point that she probably said things she shouldn't have.

[amg1977]

Oct 21, 2024 23:52:29 GMT -5 msims said:

"This claim lacks specific evidence and context. According to available interviews and reports, The Black Keys parted ways with Warner Bros. after frustrations over industry practices, but there's no strong evidence suggesting they were owed money for billions of streams." 

www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/10/29/black-keys-spotify-ceo-call/

Spotify’s CEO Once Called the Black Keys to Explain Why Their Royalties Were So Bad
Paul Resnikoff October 29, 2019

“He basically, without explaining it directly (sounds familiar), was saying that he’s paying our label to get our music,” Carney said. “What they do with the money, he can’t control. At that moment, I realized, ‘oh yeah, there’s some stock being floated to these companies’. Which there was — billions of dollars of stock was sent.”

Suddenly, the bullseye shifted from Spotify to Warner Records, the Black Keys’ record label.

Warner Records, the Black Keys drummer relayed, “gave us like a couple hundred thousand dollars of the billion. They paid it to us in the way the label does: they paid it as an artist royalty and took all these deductions out of it, and it was a made-up number.”

I suggest the bot listen to the full three hour podcast with Joe Rogan and the BK's. These BK guys aren't going to be as stupid to suggest ON SPOTIFY that spotify owes them millions. They could end up being sued and having that podcast removed.

But its quite clear as that article stated that they were not happy with their royalty situation as are many artists. 

And if two bands that sold millions of albums isn't getting paid fairly or treated respectfully by a label, then its not serious/silly to think a new artist would be that signed a deal without yet proving their worth, new artists are signed all the time.

Lisa was transparent with the royalty situation with Jackie's original Columbia deal (richard has repeated what he read from me quoting her years later).

You simply don't have that with amg1977 who can't admit to or take accountability in his word salad paragraphs for being an OTT.

So let's take a look at the Black Keys' streaming.  it is pretty obvious these guys either have no clue what they are talking about or are bs artists angry they signed a bad contract - probably the latter.  The reality is that they had left Warner Bros long before streaming was even a factor.  Their last album with Warners (under the Nonesuch label) was Turn Blue in 2014.  They didn't have billions of streams back then to steal.  They certainly didn't make billions of dollars.  They were signed to Warners and most likely wanted out and signed a bad deal to get out.  Their new stuff apart from Warners' hasn't been nearly as popular.  So the question is what exactly did they sign to get away from Warners?  They weren't dropped and were a top selling act at the time, so they would have exercised options.  Most likely Warners' screwed them over in the fine print.  These guys sound like "Dunning-Kruger" types who think they know things they don't.  They obviously had no clue how streaming worked before they signed anything.  By the way, they were pretty emphatic they were fine with Spotify now and didn't know how it worked. So they got screwed over by Warners - but most likely it was done, as I said, legally.  That is, they signed things they didn't understand.  But the idea that Warners' did the screwing over while they were with them is a lie.  They had already left and who knows what they signed to get out of there.  Moreover, as I said and you can read in your own source article, they have no problem with Spotify now.  So it had absolutely everything to do with labels being underhanded (something that has happened since the music industry began) and nothing to do with streaming.  As for Lisa, I would remind you that contract was signed in 2010 - again long before streaming - and if Jackie got ripped off then that only supports my contention that artists need proper representation.  I can guarantee you the labels have lawyers looking to get them an edge - artists need someone who knows their legal tricks.

[colt46]

amg1977, msims knocks your post, he is just mad because you are right and he is wrong!

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Oct 21, 2024 23:52:29 GMT -5 msims said:

www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/10/29/black-keys-spotify-ceo-call/

Suddenly, the bullseye shifted from Spotify to Warner Records, the Black Keys’ record label.

Warner Records, the Black Keys drummer relayed, “gave us like a couple hundred thousand dollars of the billion. They paid it to us in the way the label does: they paid it as an artist royalty and took all these deductions out of it, and it was a made-up number.”

But its quite clear as that article stated that they were not happy with their royalty situation as are many artists. 

And if two bands that sold millions of albums isn't getting paid fairly or treated respectfully by a label, then its not serious/silly to think a new artist would be that signed a deal without yet proving their worth, new artists are signed all the time.

Lisa was transparent with the royalty situation with Jackie's original Columbia deal (richard has repeated what he read from me quoting her years later).

Suddenly, the bullseye shifted from Spotify to Warner Records, the Black Keys’ record label.

So Black Keys blamed Spotify when they were actually being screwed all along by Warner (their own label). Well, now we know why nobody has ever accused musicians of being financial geniuses.

But its quite clear as that article stated that they were not happy with their royalty situation as are many artists.

Standard whining about pay. Is there anybody in the history of mankind who doesn't think that he or she should be paid more? If you think you are underpaid, then get a better deal. If you can't get a better deal then that tells you something, doesn't it?

[donkey]

Well, would you just look at that. Jackie really is a witch...that looks like magic to me! lol

http://instagram.com/p/DBbxocCR6aR