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Post by Beachguy on Feb 2, 2019 9:19:51 GMT -5
One might ask, what is a proof or sign that God is active in this world? Answer: Those who do God's will. You mean, like, killing infidels? You can't win with ben as he will spin and spin without saying much , he honestly believe he has the true answers and he was given them to him , that is how important he thinks he is , God picked him out to do God's will , he had a visit from up above to be born again , most likely a mental make down of some degree , people do not need any ones will to be good people for it's only common sense . It's Elementary as animals do not kill like evil humans , they do not think but act as God make them . |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 2, 2019 9:23:26 GMT -5
A person who calls himself a deist believes in the tree but may never see its branches nor taste its fruit. Part 2 , What ever but if seeing the lists of great deists minds i feel good about agreeing with their minds over ben the member ,  |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 2, 2019 10:11:00 GMT -5
She says she does not remember if she was awake when seeing the visions of God but did have dreams of seeing Him , so does a visit from God in a dream mean it's real ? , many people think a dream is real so they are changed to believe God spoke to them , she believes she is doing God's work , why would God not appear to the people who rule the earth and not just a young painter , this girl has pure raw natural ability , if only God would visit the powerful people on earth things may be peaceful , is He wasting His time ? , could He paint a Masterpiece of peace on earth .
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 2, 2019 10:21:03 GMT -5
Yikes !!! ok ok i will be very good from now on BTW , i have a way of seeing Jesus come to me with my closed eyes , he will appear in a small circle of light for couple seconds , i can do this over and over again ,i am serious and swear to God i am not lying , i can give this gift to any one who may want it . Need only a address to send the way .
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 2, 2019 10:25:47 GMT -5
This is for ben our member may he be blessed .
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Post by ben on Feb 3, 2019 1:05:42 GMT -5
...that Deeper Reality is God, active in the world. Only to some that believe that , i do not believe God is active , show me for God would have never stopped men as a Hitler , only humans would , you word is no better then mine . Your words are respected by me. Now I ask you to respect mine. Every person is free to do as he chooses. But if he chooses to break God's Law, he will pay the consequences, eventually, in the form of Justice according to God. Would you have God take away your free will? We are free to follow Divine Law and we are free to disobey it. But for everything we choose there are consequences. Try ignoring the Law of Gravity sometime and see what happens.  |
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Post by ben on Feb 3, 2019 1:46:43 GMT -5
You mean, like, killing infidels? You can't win with ben as he will spin and spin without saying much , he honestly believe he has the true answers and he was given them to him , that is how important he thinks he is , God picked him out to do God's will , he had a visit from up above to be born again , most likely a mental make down of some degree , people do not need any ones will to be good people for it's only common sense . It's Elementary as animals do not kill like evil humans , they do not think but act as God make them . We are in agreement about your words I have emboldened in black. I can respond in this way: Animals do not have free will. They act chiefly by instinct. But God has given men sovereignty over their choices in life. It is a sacred gift, for it allows men to know things animals can never know. It allows men to become sons of God, if they have knowledge of Him and choose to follow Divine Law. To know God is liberating and promises to end all suffering. |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 3, 2019 9:18:37 GMT -5
You can't win with ben as he will spin and spin without saying much , he honestly believe he has the true answers and he was given them to him , that is how important he thinks he is , God picked him out to do God's will , he had a visit from up above to be born again , most likely a mental make down of some degree , people do not need any ones will to be good people for it's only common sense . It's Elementary as animals do not kill like evil humans , they do not think but act as God make them . We are in agreement about your words I have emboldened in black. I can respond in this way: Animals do not have free will. They act chiefly by instinct. But God has given men sovereignty over their choices in life. It is a sacred gift, for it allows men to know things animals can never know. It allows men to become sons of God, if they have knowledge of Him and choose to follow Divine Law. To know God is liberating and promises to end all suffering. One of Gods big mistake was giving human a free will .We all are sons of God and bitches . |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 3, 2019 9:25:53 GMT -5
Only to some that believe that , i do not believe God is active , show me for God would have never stopped men as a Hitler , only humans would , you word is no better then mine . Your words are respected by me. Now I ask you to respect mine. Every person is free to do as he chooses. But if he chooses to break God's Law, he will pay the consequences, eventually, in the form of Justice according to God. Would you have God take away your free will? We are free to follow Divine Law and we are free to disobey it. But for everything we choose there are consequences. Try ignoring the Law of Gravity sometime and see what happens. what you believe is opinions as mine , God and his laws ? you mean the ones man made in stone ? , haha please spare me as they were fake news and to put fear into being good by the hands of man , how do you know there is consequences ? that is only what you believe and you now have a mind that believes it knows all , i call it a disorder as all the phony preachers that preach ever Sunday , you are closed minded now . Remember i am the one who can see God ever minute if i wish , He will appear to me as Jesus Christ if he is God or the Son , i have the power to , can you ? |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 3, 2019 12:12:18 GMT -5
Only to some that believe that , i do not believe God is active , show me for God would have never stopped men as a Hitler , only humans would , you word is no better then mine . Your words are respected by me. Now I ask you to respect mine. Every person is free to do as he chooses. But if he chooses to break God's Law, he will pay the consequences, eventually, in the form of Justice according to God. Would you have God take away your free will? We are free to follow Divine Law and we are free to disobey it. But for everything we choose there are consequences. Try ignoring the Law of Gravity sometime and see what happens. The Law of Gravity ?? the author was a deist !!! Sir Newton but you know better ? haha wake up  |
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Post by ben on Feb 3, 2019 17:29:57 GMT -5
We are in agreement about your words I have emboldened in black. I can respond in this way: Animals do not have free will. They act chiefly by instinct. But God has given men sovereignty over their choices in life. It is a sacred gift, for it allows men to know things animals can never know. It allows men to become sons of God, if they have knowledge of Him and choose to follow Divine Law. To know God is liberating and promises to end all suffering. One of Gods big mistake was giving human a free will .We all are sons of God and bitches . Many human beings are angry with God. They say they want justice in the world and yet continue to break both men's laws, and God's. Then they are unwilling to pay the consequences. But only Jupiter can go for a swim without getting wet.  |
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Post by ben on Feb 3, 2019 18:04:59 GMT -5
Your words are respected by me. Now I ask you to respect mine. Every person is free to do as he chooses. But if he chooses to break God's Law, he will pay the consequences, eventually, in the form of Justice according to God. Would you have God take away your free will? We are free to follow Divine Law and we are free to disobey it. But for everything we choose there are consequences. Try ignoring the Law of Gravity sometime and see what happens. what you believe is opinions as mine , God and his laws ? you mean the ones man made in stone ? , haha please spare me as they were fake news and to put fear into being good by the hands of man , how do you know there is consequences ? that is only what you believe and you now have a mind that believes it knows all , i call it a disorder as all the phony preachers that preach ever Sunday , you are closed minded now . Remember i am the one who can see God ever minute if i wish , He will appear to me as Jesus Christ if he is God or the Son , i have the power to , can you ? With enough confidence in the Ultimate Reality, all things are possible. It is said that fear is the beginning of Wisdom. This is because the natural man intuitively knows that his fear comes from his ignorance of God. And then if a man comes to know God's perfect love, his fear is cast out. To love God with all of your heart and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself are the commandments I speak of today. But to know what that means for you, is between you and your God. Until we experience God's love, we find it difficult to understand its power. It is not like human love which is often mere sentimentality and does not heal us. Here are just a few of the many consequences for not knowing God and His Wisdom and hence, ignoring Divine Law: Irritability, anger, mental stress and torment, mental anguish and suffering, frustration, disappointment, grief, guilt, shame, regret, misery, fear, spiritual death... |
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Post by ben on Feb 3, 2019 18:14:45 GMT -5
Your words are respected by me. Now I ask you to respect mine. Every person is free to do as he chooses. But if he chooses to break God's Law, he will pay the consequences, eventually, in the form of Justice according to God. Would you have God take away your free will? We are free to follow Divine Law and we are free to disobey it. But for everything we choose there are consequences. Try ignoring the Law of Gravity sometime and see what happens. The Law of Gravity ?? the author was a deist !!! Sir Newton but you know better ? haha wake up He might not have discovered the spiritual meaning of the saying: The fruit does not fall far from the tree. |
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Post by Beachguy on Feb 4, 2019 7:43:35 GMT -5
what you believe is opinions as mine , God and his laws ? you mean the ones man made in stone ? , haha please spare me as they were fake news and to put fear into being good by the hands of man , how do you know there is consequences ? that is only what you believe and you now have a mind that believes it knows all , i call it a disorder as all the phony preachers that preach ever Sunday , you are closed minded now . Remember i am the one who can see God ever minute if i wish , He will appear to me as Jesus Christ if he is God or the Son , i have the power to , can you ? With enough confidence in the Ultimate Reality, all things are possible. It is said that fear is the beginning of Wisdom. This is because the natural man intuitively knows that his fear comes from his ignorance of God. And then if a man comes to know God's perfect love, his fear is cast out. To love God with all of your heart and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself are the commandments I speak of today. But to know what that means for you, is between you and your God. Until we experience God's love, we find it difficult to understand its power. It is not like human love which is often mere sentimentality and does not heal us. Here are just a few of the many consequences for not knowing God and His Wisdom and hence, ignoring Divine Law: Irritability, anger, mental stress and torment, mental anguish and suffering, frustration, disappointment, grief, guilt, shame, regret, misery, fear, spiritual death... And what i tell you i can see Christ any time i want to is reality , in fact it is Amazing , i found this ability while working at the VA health hospital ,how can i a deist have this ability and not you ? those 15 things you listed are what God has felt in the Bible as He killed tons of people , one big flood and other great wall of water and many other rages , God will not blame people for not knowing Him as He understands the people of the world only know what they are told and learn , it is not their fault to be born into another belief for as you know if you were born a jew or Buddhist or etc you would Not believe as you do now , not to fear ben i am sure you will go for your reward in the hereafter , enjoy !!!  |
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Post by ben on Feb 4, 2019 11:45:55 GMT -5
With enough confidence in the Ultimate Reality, all things are possible. It is said that fear is the beginning of Wisdom. This is because the natural man intuitively knows that his fear comes from his ignorance of God. And then if a man comes to know God's perfect love, his fear is cast out. To love God with all of your heart and mind and to love your neighbor as yourself are the commandments I speak of today. But to know what that means for you, is between you and your God. Until we experience God's love, we find it difficult to understand its power. It is not like human love which is often mere sentimentality and does not heal us. Here are just a few of the many consequences for not knowing God and His Wisdom and hence, ignoring Divine Law: Irritability, anger, mental stress and torment, mental anguish and suffering, frustration, disappointment, grief, guilt, shame, regret, misery, fear, spiritual death... And what i tell you i can see Christ any time i want to is reality , in fact it is Amazing , i found this ability while working at the VA health hospital ,how can i a deist have this ability and not you ? those 15 things you listed are what God has felt in the Bible as He killed tons of people , one big flood and other great wall of water and many other rages , God will not blame people for not knowing Him as He understands the people of the world only know what they are told and learn , it is not their fault to be born into another belief for as you know if you were born a jew or Buddhist or etc you would Not believe as you do now , not to fear ben i am sure you will go for your reward in the hereafter , enjoy !!! I accept your ability to have visions, but your question puzzles me and your comments about the God of the Old Testament do also, because a person who fits the definition of a deist does not believe that God interferes directly with the created world and "rejects divine revelation or direct intervention of God in the universe by miracles." So perhaps you are not really a deist. You sound more like a disgruntled Christian. Also, if you really know how God feels, that may be a miracle. Blessings to you, Beachguy! |
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