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Post by johnnyb on Aug 22, 2019 20:31:07 GMT -5
Geez Louise pin donkey, you really have no reading comprehension skills, that's Dizzy the Dissapointments M O to come here and call posters dicks. All I know is when ever someone brings up a big dick, you're the first one who jumps on it. You're really out to lunch, Geez. |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 22, 2019 20:37:16 GMT -5
All I know is when ever someone brings up a big dick, you're the first one who jumps on it. You're really out to lunch, Geez. "Back in an hour" |
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Post by BOGC on Aug 22, 2019 20:43:44 GMT -5
I guess it comes down to taste. I think it's hideous. Obviously you have none, I think she looks fantastic. Remember people, she's 19 not 90. I suspect this is one of those things where the photos don't do it justice. There's a black-on-black pattern woven into the fabric (something that makes me suspect this outfit is only workable in a small venue similar to 54/Below, since such details would be lost at a distance); and phone vids rarely can handle the lighting well. And the close from below angle doesn't help either. In other words, it almost certainly looks better if you're there. Professional photography at events would help...but unless you're getting it free via major media coverage, that costs $$ that don't pay back below a certain scale of following. Some would argue that you don't get that scale if you don't spend the $$, but that's a risk, and risks don't always work well. |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 22, 2019 21:02:09 GMT -5
Most likely not real unless two cameras angles at difference times but the point is good PR for a big , big gig with Marvel Comics ...>>>>>>>>>>>$$$$$$
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 22, 2019 21:06:30 GMT -5
From what I could hear (remember I wasn't looking at the vid) she has really been developing her lower register and I like it. The reason I didn't watch was, like you, I find her gestures on stage still awkward and distracting. But she's trying . Jackie quoted someone ( I assume it was Will N.) as saying, "You can't just stand there". She went from one extreme to another. She did need to add more gesturing but now it's too distracting because she overdoes it, she needs to tone it down. I was shocked when she added all of those distracting gestures while singing O Holy Night. It was all about her " TEAM " , she did nutin except what they told her . |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 22, 2019 21:14:35 GMT -5
To be clear, I didn't say he was dangerous. I don't know him, and I don't have an opinion. I'm not trying to say that you said that I said he is or was dangerous (you didn't), I'm just clarifying (or trying to). What age was Jackie when Joe went on his rampage? Does anybody know? Airport Joes attacks were mostly against Lisa and Jacob(Juliet) before his full transformation. He called Lisa a c~t and Jacob some really vulgar things also. They hated him and stopped him at the door to concerts , why they would allow him near Jackie is insane , it is not logical , insanity i tell you ...he was vulgar on social media sites about the family , there is a story behind this subject , Book it .. |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 22, 2019 21:24:05 GMT -5
I think it goes more deeper then that , peoples interests and why , what is it about a artist ones likes , dancing , singing , a piano , sexual appeal , looks , personality , classy , etc, personal lives , etc , lots of factors . No the reason people think they are interesting is because they are interesting. They are followed by their peers because they live a completely different life and their peers want to know what it would be like to be them.
I mentioned Lily Chee as a model she has a large following. She is younger than Rachel Evancho she is not followed because she is a model but she has such a different life than her peers and she doesn't mind showing it.
How many 15 year olds would decide to go to Europe by themselves to visit friends in different countries. Could you even imagine Jackie doing something like that. Yes she got lost once going from one country to another but she made it out with a great video of the culture over there seen through her own eyes. You may be surprised how many would rather see things like this then watch who they follow sing, dance, act or what ever.
a "no" does not make it true or factual , it is a mere opinion , it is not that simple imo , i find nothing interesting but i saw Maggie while in Pittsburgh on the dance show , yes she was the best dancer and best body and some what older then the team , i don't know of any great awards in show-biz but yet again i don't care about dancers , i sure would not watch the dance show contest , i take a look at some of DWTS but not complete show , dancers start to look all alike after a few dances like ice skaters .btw . by them selves ? you 100% sure of that ? , plus dancers are about the bodies that fans Look at .Look at their pictures . |
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Post by BOGC on Aug 22, 2019 21:32:22 GMT -5
I was listening to her singing that song, while I was reading the comments. Whoever her voice coach is now is working his magic. I have never heard her sing so well. It's expressive in a way that's suited to the genre; that's good, because different content has different requirements. For example,OMBC in context is a teen walking the line between a pitiable appeal and an OTT outburst; the sound needs to be big, but other expressiveness needs to have some restraint (modulo the slight overacting needed for stage), so that the humor isn't too heavy-handed; the reaction sought is something less than guffaws that distract other audience members, although those are not unprecedented even classically. A historical courtesy was not to applaud until the conductor lowered his baton after the last note either vocal or instrumental, and perhaps even to defer applause between numbers until intermission or the end so as not to interfere with momentum and pacing of the story. The courtesy of a given mode of audience participation also varies by context, but few in younger audiences understand that, give or take the rather obvious difference between mellow folk rock and mosh pits at a heavy metal performance. But some of us, even when younger, were never much for being expressive...which may also be why others that first attempt expressiveness in their later years are rather clumsy about it. ( I know my limitations - little sense of rhythm, and a (inherited, based on rare mention of historical examples seen close up) near paranoia that crowds operating in a synchronous mode are a riot or pogrom just waiting to happen; so there's forms of expressiveness I simply won't attempt, because they won't work well and are quite uncomfortable. Sorry, but there's limits to what I can do to respond to that "hyping me up like this" tweet.) Continued development of expression fitting content in performance will finally put to rest the "everything sounds the same" complaint - which has also been widely made about pop, which is subject to extreme predictive analysis of sales prospects, click tracks (reducing variation in rhythm), computer editing (further reducing interpretive variation), etc. (There are a number of articles about why high sales genres tend toward songs that sound similar; I mentioned three of the causes I saw skimming a few of them.) |
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Post by outlier on Aug 22, 2019 21:35:27 GMT -5
Emily Bear is the most interesting of all the people being posted about on this forum. The more, the better. That is your opinion but I doubt many people would think that or she would have a much larger following. The Z-Girls have a huge following because so many people think they are interesting, Emily Bear and Jackie have very few following them because very few people think they are interesting. There's more to life than popularity. |
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Post by outlier on Aug 22, 2019 21:37:23 GMT -5
All I know is when ever someone brings up a big dick, you're the first one who jumps on it. Hmmm... |
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Post by BOGC on Aug 22, 2019 21:42:41 GMT -5
I have seen Jackie live 4 times when she was 14, 15, 16, and 17. She still had her beautiful classical voice then and she sounded so much better than she does now. Do you mean that you thought her voice was better in the past or that she was singing songs that better suited her voice? She's still got that voice and uses it for songs for which it's appropriate. She now attempts different voices suited to different styles of songs; that's IMO generally a good idea, although she's as yet exceptional mainly with the classical sound, although achieving genre-appropriate variety of sound isn't a small thing either; some major opera singers that have attempted non-classical music were not impressive at least in part because they didn't do well at using different sound and technique for different genres; so if she's even learning a variety of technique that those three times her age and with 100x the training struggled with, that's not bad at all. Someone who ONLY wants that voice from her might have a problem with her singing most other sorts of songs with the voice appropriate for those songs...but that's probably too bad for them, since only singing what they* like won't necessarily sell. Not that singing a variety wide enough that nobody likes more than a minority of it will necessarily sell either. No strategy comes with a guarantee. * I sympathize with that preference to a degree, but unless enough other people do too, it doesn't really matter what Rick or I prefer insofar as new content is concerned, since a minimum audience is required to continue to produce new content. |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 22, 2019 21:44:17 GMT -5
That is your opinion but I doubt many people would think that or she would have a much larger following. The Z-Girls have a huge following because so many people think they are interesting, Emily Bear and Jackie have very few following them because very few people think they are interesting. There's more to life than popularity. 100% correct , Miss House has under 1,000 followers on Instagram but she makes a great living with many talents , she is BIG on her You-tube channel , she creates there good eating shows and good exercise programs , etc ,etc |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 22, 2019 21:48:55 GMT -5
Obviously you have none, I think she looks fantastic. Remember people, she's 19 not 90. I suspect this is one of those things where the photos don't do it justice. There's a black-on-black pattern woven into the fabric (something that makes me suspect this outfit is only workable in a small venue similar to 54/Below, since such details would be lost at a distance); and phone vids rarely can handle the lighting well. And the close from below angle doesn't help either. In other words, it almost certainly looks better if you're there. Professional photography at events would help...but unless you're getting it free via major media coverage, that costs $$ that don't pay back below a certain scale of following. Some would argue that you don't get that scale if you don't spend the $$, but that's a risk, and risks don't always work well. In my opinion, the problem with the outfit is the incongruity. The top and the bottom are incongruous with each other. The style and fabric of the top conflicts with the style and fabric of the bottom. There's nothing wrong with either piece, in and of itself. Either of the two pieces could have been fine with a different piece, but the two pieces together do not make make a good match. They don't compliment each other. I think the top would have gone well with a long smooth black skirt, split up the side. The shorts would have gone well with a top that's much less "bulky", like a halter top or a slim-fitting blouse. But the bulkiness of the top overwhelms the skimpiness of the shorts, and the skimpy shorts are not substantial enough visually to support the bulkiness of the top. It's a question of balance. |
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Post by richard on Aug 22, 2019 22:02:35 GMT -5
a "no" does not make it true or factual , it is a mere opinion , it is not that simple imo , i find nothing interesting but i saw Maggie while in Pittsburgh on the dance show , yes she was the best dancer and best body and some what older then the team , i don't know of any great awards in show-biz but yet again i don't care about dancers , i sure would not watch the dance show contest , i take a look at some of DWTS but not complete show , dancers start to look all alike after a few dances like ice skaters .btw . by them selves ? you 100% sure of that ? , plus dancers are about the bodies that fans Look at .Look at their pictures As I said people have large followings because people find them interesting, It has nothing to do with their dance ability. It's a lot of things who they run with, their personalities, their fashion, just a whole lot of things. Go on Maddie-Z instagram site and there is hardly anything in it that would show she is a dancer. the same with her youtube channel very little to indicate she dances. But her showing how to do makeup, hairstyles and some skits gets millions of views. |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 22, 2019 22:10:51 GMT -5
There's more to life than popularity. People who are popular tend to be people who have interesting lives. |
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