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Post by Beachguy on Aug 23, 2019 14:48:47 GMT -5
Perhaps non-members comments should mean nothing as they hide who they really are for some reason and you can bet there are some real losers and fat lonely blokes with old lady cooking did din  Geez. As soon as I invited you to donate to my charity, you turned into a sourpuss. and you a donkey pin head  , haha truths hurts  |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 23, 2019 14:54:24 GMT -5
Geez. As soon as I invited you to donate to my charity, you turned into a sourpuss. and you a donkey pin head , haha truths hurts It seems that you and I have reached an impasse, and so I will bid you a doo-doo. |
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 23, 2019 15:05:12 GMT -5
and you a donkey pin head , haha truths hurts It seems that you and I have reached an impasse, and so I will bid you a doo-doo. The Beach Man loses another friend, shocking. 😮 |
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Post by Disappointed on Aug 23, 2019 15:08:22 GMT -5
Don't forget though, she is doing tons of top secret private events and making billions and billions of dollars. Just like Jackie. Right and I wish they could explain how a few years ago Lisa said Jackie had enough money to go to college and possibly enough for her siblings.
What happened to that money Mike spend it all on beer laying out at the pool.
My guess is once they figured out neither Jackie nor Jacob were bright enough to go to college, that money went towards the New York apartment. |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 23, 2019 15:08:44 GMT -5
It seems that you and I have reached an impasse, and so I will bid you a doo-doo. The Beach Man loses another friend, shocking. 😮 It appears he became irritated rather quickly. Could be he had sand stuck in his shorts. |
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Post by richard on Aug 23, 2019 17:50:22 GMT -5
I have better things to do then checking on young people , i gave that up years ago , who is jojo , who is Millie , i saw grace one time , i don't care of these gals except the few from years ago i know , please ! people write books for people , duh , Emily Bear is a real author and high IQ , ""smart enough "" , please ! most artists have PR Dept and Career Dept , some of these gals are dumb as average , adults are behind the show-biz family , former Miss House has a high IQ , those two would put all the rest to shame .the real successful artists have very good people behind them , out of sight . Book it .my time is up here , life to live >>>>>>>>>>>>>. If you don't know who Millie Bobby Brown is or JoJo Siwa then you have no business trying to compare the ones you mentioned to today's top young celebrities. Like saying you are an expert in music but never heard of Taylor Swift.
LOL you said you have been following Maddie longer than me and you don't even know who her best friends are that she has been hanging out with for a long time.
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Post by richard on Aug 23, 2019 19:12:05 GMT -5
Good grief! I don't know if you're pulling my leg by playing dumb or not, but charity is not the issue. The issue is: POPULARITY IS NOT THE BE ALL END ALL, even for entertainers. Emily Bear, who you dismiss because she doesn't have the popularity of those girls you are obsessed with, has other thing things far more important than popularity, like talent and class. Your obsession with popularity as the only measure of success is very shallow. Dumb statement Maddie's friends are popular because they have real talent not because a bunch of old men think so. Take Maddie's friend Simone Biles http://instagr.am/p/BS4ktF0DhmQ she is very popular because she is talented she has 3.5m instagram followers they call her the GOAT (Greatest in the world) Unlike the ones you mention she has medals and trophies to prove how good she is.
Only Jackie's fans believe talent does not effect popularity, of course we know why Jackie does not have the talent to be popular no matter how much money is thrown at her and how much they fake the system to present her as something that she is not.
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Post by richard on Aug 23, 2019 20:03:09 GMT -5
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 23, 2019 20:04:47 GMT -5
Yes , this lovely lassie is a friend of 7 years from the UK , we just exchanged messages two days ago and lots long before now , even mail , she has a strong soprano voice , she sings at local clubs , halls , churches , etc , she just love to sing and has a great face with wonderful smile , i call her Quiggy , see you can have a friendly relationship with some humble artists .  you just don't hate on some artists you don't like , let it go and don't act childish . 7 k people die a day in USA , you might be next . |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 23, 2019 20:27:54 GMT -5
yes , i know her with 4 albums and 8 pictures , all singed , i have connected with her about 6 times , and she replies in time , her voice is nice to listen to and relax with it , she is very humble and private , lots of events in churches and halls , she is close to being a angel imo .
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 23, 2019 20:45:43 GMT -5
she is close to being a angel imo Sounds like you want to put her on a pedestal. |
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 23, 2019 21:48:52 GMT -5
I think it is silly to state that someone's talent is to be judged by their popularity, but it cuts both ways. Popularity is no guarantee of quality (if that were true, McDonalds would be fine dining and Budweiser would be drinkable beer), but it also does not eliminate the possibility of quality. If a musician or composer has a love for jazz and wants to play jazz for a living, then no matter how great they are, their popularity will be limited. Jazz is no longer as popular as it once was and will probably never be that popular again. There are any number of young extremely talented jazz vocalists but if they continue in that calling, they will be competing in a small niche market. That is their choice and it has no bearing on their ability.
On the other side, some people seem to consider anything popular as being of poor quality merely because it is popular without any serious consideration of the work or artists' individual merits. This is usually accompanied by the claim that 95% of all popular music is garbage. Well, that is true. But 95% of all music is garbage - regardless of genre. The difference is that in popular music you will more likely come across the garbage because, well, it's popular. The countless lousy classical composers, jazz musicians, and fourth rate opera singers remain obscure because the limited resources allotted to that genre's promotion to the general public features the cream of the crop.
Applied to the topic of young female singers that dominates the discussion here, it is ridiculous to claim that Emily Bear is not a fabulously talented musician - no matter what happens in her attempt to cross over into popular music. In mastery of an instrument, she easily is in a class by herself. She does not have a great set of pipes but, as has been mentioned numerous times, a great vocal range is a plus but emotive power is more important in pop singing. In terms of composing, her musical composition skills are superb. I am not convinced her abilities as a lyricist are at the level of some others we have discussed, but, as a complete package, I stated earlier that she is the only girl we had discussed who has more musical chops than either Billie or Grace and I stand by that statement.
None of this means she will be successful - there are numerous factors, including timing, that determine long term success. But it won't be for lack of talent. She is probably best going the "indie" route and appealing to a college and 20-something demographic who have more adventurous tastes than the stuff played on the radio but, even if she is successful, it will likely take 3-5 years to reach a sustainable level.
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Post by outlier on Aug 23, 2019 22:40:27 GMT -5
I think it is silly to state that someone's talent is to be judged by their popularity, but it cuts both ways. Popularity is no guarantee of quality (if that were true, McDonalds would be fine dining and Budweiser would be drinkable beer), but it also does not eliminate the possibility of quality. If a musician or composer has a love for jazz and wants to play jazz for a living, then no matter how great they are, their popularity will be limited. Jazz is no longer as popular as it once was and will probably never be that popular again. There are any number of young extremely talented jazz vocalists but if they continue in that calling, they will be competing in a small niche market. That is their choice and it has no bearing on their ability.
On the other side, some people seem to consider anything popular as being of poor quality merely because it is popular without any serious consideration of the work or artists' individual merits. This is usually accompanied by the claim that 95% of all popular music is garbage. Well, that is true. But 95% of all music is garbage - regardless of genre. The difference is that in popular music you will more likely come across the garbage because, well, it's popular. The countless lousy classical composers, jazz musicians, and fourth rate opera singers remain obscure because the limited resources allotted to that genre's promotion to the general public features the cream of the crop.
Applied to the topic of young female singers that dominates the discussion here, it is ridiculous to claim that Emily Bear is not a fabulously talented musician - no matter what happens in her attempt to cross over into popular music. In mastery of an instrument, she easily is in a class by herself. She does not have a great set of pipes but, as has been mentioned numerous times, a great vocal range is a plus but emotive power is more important in pop singing. In terms of composing, her musical composition skills are superb. I am not convinced her abilities as a lyricist are at the level of some others we have discussed, but, as a complete package, I stated earlier that she is the only girl we had discussed who has more musical chops than either Billie or Grace and I stand by that statement.
None of this means she will be successful - there are numerous factors, including timing, that determine long term success. But it won't be for lack of talent. She is probably best going the "indie" route and appealing to a college and 20-something demographic who have more adventurous tastes than the stuff played on the radio but, even if she is successful, it will likely take 3-5 years to reach a sustainable level.
Exactly right. But Richard is blind to anything but popularity and is unable to entertain the thought that popularity and talent are not the same thing. The endless denigration of very talented but less popular entertainers gets irritating. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 23, 2019 22:42:39 GMT -5
95% of all music is garbage - regardless of genre. That is undoubtedly true. The problem is that nobody can agree on what the non-garbage 5% is. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 23, 2019 22:45:51 GMT -5
popularity and talent are not the same thing. True indeed. Popularity is objective, talent is subjective. There is general consensus on metrics of popularity. There is none on talent. |
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, haha truths hurts 
you just don't hate on some artists you don't like , let it go and don't act childish . 7 k people die a day in USA , you might be next .
