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Post by richard on Aug 26, 2019 21:16:09 GMT -5
This is the first sexy photo of Jackie. Not the first she's tried, the first that succeeded. The other attempts, even showing a lot of boob, were of a girl who was well aware she was posing for a photo with an "Am I doing this right?" look on her face. Whoever posed her this time knows what casual, easy sexuality looks like. Very appropriate for a Nineteen yo beauty. Except for the matte type professional background this looks like it was an unplanned snap. Well done Mr/Miss/Ms camera human. Jackie, stay with this one. Listen to whomever hooked you two up. EDIT: Oops, the background is painted brick, not a matte. Still, the artistry of the photog kept ol' agog's eye and appreciative organs on the subject, not the layout. Several of her last photos were taken by Christina Turino a profesional stylist and photographer. Possibly the others you were talking about were taken by an almost unknown photographer that Mike thought that he should have shot Jackie for free. She has a few sites. www.instagram.com/beatbyturino/ Maybe Jackie will learn why some are called professional and have made a name for themselves. |
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Post by Disappointed on Aug 26, 2019 21:23:37 GMT -5
This is the first sexy photo of Jackie. Not the first she's tried, the first that succeeded. The other attempts, even showing a lot of boob, were of a girl who was well aware she was posing for a photo, with an "Am I doing this right?" look on her face. Whoever posed her this time knows what casual, easy sexuality looks like. Very appropriate for a Nineteen yo beauty. Except for the matte type professional background this looks like it was an unplanned snap. Well done Mr/Miss/Ms camera human. Jackie, stay with this one. Listen to whomever hooked you two up. EDIT: Oops, the background is painted brick, not a matte. Still, the artistry of the photog kept ol' agog's eye and appreciative synapses on the subject, not the layout.  That's only because you were obsessed with her in the first place. But to any member of the public, this is nothing special or out of the ordinary. Hundreds of thousands of young girls are trying to pose sexy all around the world trying to get attention. Good luck to Jackie if she thinks she is she is going to stand out in that sea. Here is what that looks like:  |
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Post by Disappointed on Aug 27, 2019 2:58:26 GMT -5
The sad part in this whole saga is that 9 years ago, Jackie did stand out on AGT and had the world at her fingertips. As Piers Morgan said "anyone can sing pop songs" but few could sing like her. Giddy times for fans. Foster came running, as did Oprah, QVC, Leno, and several other talk shows and news channels. TOP OF THE WORLD! What could go wrong?
Well, you could shoot yourself in the ass, that's what. This story should really be made into a movie or TV special called "How To Be Your Own Worst Enemy" or something like that. Focussing on the thought process behind shoving the gay and transgender agenda down the throats of her conservative fan base, rather than just SHUTTING UP and not addressing the issue unless asked, then having a polite response like "I support my brother/sister in the difficult decisions he/she is facing."
BUT NOOOOOOOOO! Instead, and I'm paraphrasing here "Hey religious fans, my brother is now my sister and if you don't like it, go suck an egg!" That's pretty much what transpired there. And then after that, paraphrasing again, "I guess I will sing for this unpopular president since no one else will, to get in his good books, then try to change his views to suit my agenda....but if he doesn't like it, he can go suck an egg too".
So over time, more and more fans dropped off, and some came and went as the ridiculous antics played out, and guess what? Now she is that "anyone can sing pop songs" person. Nothing special at all, just like what Piers Morgan meant. LOL!
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Post by johnnyb on Aug 27, 2019 6:56:09 GMT -5
Dizzy says::
Well, you could shoot yourself in the ass, that's what. This story should really be made into a movie or TV special called "How To Be Your Own Worst Enemy" or something like that. Focussing on the thought process behind shoving the gay and transgender agenda down the throats of her conservative fan base, rather than just SHUTTING UP and not addressing the issue unless asked, then having a polite response like "I support my brother/sister in the difficult decisions he/she is facing."
I've been saying this for a long time now that Jackie would be better off just keeping her mouth shut on these controversial issues and we all can see the end results of her not doing that. If you want to play the blame game I will put most of it on Lisa for pushing Jacobs transgender saga into the spotlight.
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 27, 2019 7:14:35 GMT -5
Any competition you would loose. http://instagr.am/p/B1iRJWaB-3x When Tiffany's one of the worlds largest Jewelry companies is loosing money 2 years in a role it's time to fire the CEO get a new management team then hire Maddie to bring in the Millennials and save your company and it worked. They aren't going to hire Jackie, Emily, Connie or anyone else normally talked about on this site. They are going to hire Maddie to show wearing their jewelry is not just for the older generation.
good resume for both Maddie and IMG-models.
He didn't say that Connie is popular enough for Tiffany to advertise and model for them, he said he thinks that Connie is prettier and has a better body. And while Maddie is getting as she's getting older, Connie wins in the looks department hands down. It's Elementary , not even close , talent also . |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 27, 2019 7:19:21 GMT -5
I will take the total/complete body of Connie over Maddie , the face would take the ribbon . Any competition you would loose. http://instagr.am/p/B1iRJWaB-3x When Tiffany's one of the worlds largest Jewelry companies is loosing money 2 years in a role it's time to fire the CEO get a new management team then hire Maddie to bring in the Millennials and save your company and it worked. They aren't going to hire Jackie, Emily, Connie or anyone else normally talked about on this site. They are going to hire Maddie to show wearing their jewelry is not just for the older generation.
Good resume for Maddie.
Right , they got her very cheap ..Book it ! that is why , a dancer . |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 27, 2019 7:24:32 GMT -5
The sad part in this whole saga is that 9 years ago, Jackie did stand out on AGT and had the world at her fingertips. As Piers Morgan said "anyone can sing pop songs" but few could sing like her. Giddy times for fans. Foster came running, as did Oprah, QVC, Leno, and several other talk shows and news channels. TOP OF THE WORLD! What could go wrong? Well, you could shoot yourself in the ass, that's what. This story should really be made into a movie or TV special called "How To Be Your Own Worst Enemy" or something like that. Focussing on the thought process behind shoving the gay and transgender agenda down the throats of her conservative fan base, rather than just SHUTTING UP and not addressing the issue unless asked, then having a polite response like "I support my brother/sister in the difficult decisions he/she is facing." BUT NOOOOOOOOO! Instead, and I'm paraphrasing here "Hey religious fans, my brother is now my sister and if you don't like it, go suck an egg!" That's pretty much what transpired there. And then after that, paraphrasing again, "I guess I will sing for this unpopular president since no one else will, to get in his good books, then try to change his views to suit my agenda....but if he doesn't like it, he can go suck an egg too". So over time, more and more fans dropped off, and some came and went as the ridiculous antics played out, and guess what? Now she is that "anyone can sing pop songs" person. Nothing special at all, just like what Piers Morgan meant. LOL! If anyone thinks she was in control of career these years then they can't think , they ( team) parents let her pick maybe her shoes to wear , not much more . |
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Post by Beachguy on Aug 27, 2019 8:00:37 GMT -5
Good picture of Jackie but if she looses anymore weight she will need to make two steps before her shorts move. Just joking she looks both good and healthy.
http://instagr.am/p/B1oubHOhi3H That's HOT! 🔥🔥🔥🔥 Perhaps we should post this every day of the Autumn Chilly Breezes .. |
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Post by richard on Aug 27, 2019 8:37:49 GMT -5
Right , they got her very cheap ..Book it ! that is why , a dancer . Dumb statement Tiffany's hires the most expensive models. As an Img-model they set the price. They spent a fortune just on the set. Your little Connie couldn't even get the smallest modeling job. Foolish to try to compare her to someone that is an IMG-Model Where the lowest on the pay-scale still makes $365 per hour for a photo shoot which usually last 8 hrs.
Yes she is a dancer (with over 4 billion views from Sia's video's alone ) but she is also a successful writer, fashion model, actor, and has her own clothing line, social media influencer, and should be getting her make up line in the near future.
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 27, 2019 10:22:25 GMT -5
When Tiffany's one of the worlds largest Jewelry companies is loosing money 2 years in a role it's time to fire the CEO get a new management team then hire Maddie to bring in the Millennials and save your company and it worked. They aren't going to hire Jackie, Emily, Connie or anyone else normally talked about on this site. They are going to hire Maddie to show wearing their jewelry is not just for the older generation. Good resume for Maddie. www.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2018/06/tiffanys-marketing-gambit-designed-to-draw.html?page=allRichard, I'm afraid in your enthusiasm you have misrepresented the article somewhat:
1. The article does not state that Tiffany's was losing money. They were not. What it states is that they had declining sales for two years in a row. On Wall Street, this can be a problem in making stock prices take a dive since prices are set by expectations and meeting those expectations. When you do not meet expectations, there is often a rush to sell-off the stock by those only interested in short term gains and losses (hedge funds, day traders, etc.) to minimize their loss before the other short term investors can sell off theirs. Remaining shareholders and corporate boards of directors do not like their stock going south and this can lead to management change no matter how profitable the company had been the previous year.
2. The article does not credit signing Maddie Ziegler with the turnaround. In fact, the turnaround occurred beginning in 2017 when the new management took over and began expanding their target demographic to include millennials. The article states the stock reached an all time high in May 2018 based on record sales. That would have been the sales for first quarter 2018 which occurred prior to any advertisement using Maddie Ziegler had even appeared.
3. The article then states they have started a new round of ads using Maddie, actress Ellie Fanning, and some rapper named A$AP Ferg (never heard of him but I assume someone has) to further their appeal to millennials. The new campaign thus came after the turnaround and is not centered solely on Maddie.
4. Equally important to the marketing issues was the buyback of stock by Tiffany's. This puts the current management in charge of a much larger percentage of Tiffany stock and thus insulates them from the aforementioned turbulence with stock prices every time they have a disappointing quarter.
None of this is meant to minimize Maddie's accomplishment in getting signed for this campaign. It is a high profile position for a upper echelon retailer and bodes well for her future - not to mention getting some quality loaners for red carpet events.  But let's not get carried away by making it seem as though Maddie pulled Tiffany's out of ruin when that simply is not the case. |
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 27, 2019 10:34:59 GMT -5
amg1977: Good post I believe what you are saying, except I haven't seen the same signs you have that she is really changing that much. If she wanted to start over she would first make her own social media sites not have them controlled by Lisa. Who could any day flip out again and delete the whole thing. That should have happened years ago, the number of followers and subscribers are so low she should be able to make those numbers up shortly if she worked at it. Jackie could start by getting her some celebrity friends and work with them in NY.
Christina Turino would be excellent person to help Jackie with a younger base, she is already taking Jackie's pictures and doing her makeup and styling. She sure knew how to get her young daughter a large fan base.
When it comes to improvement with Jackie, you take what you can get. My optimism is fueled primarily by a burst of activity rather than the indifference to which I have become accustomed and an enthusiasm in her latest performances that I have not seen from her in a very long time. Is she doing everything I think she needs to do yet? No, of course not but at least there is some acknowledgement that things could not go on as they had in the past and some effort was needed on her part. Her attitude seems to have changed and she seems to be enjoying herself. Perhaps her recent connections with Sophia Rose and Christina Turino have expanded her horizons and she is seeing things a bit differently than when her only input was from her family and her parental-chosen handlers. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 27, 2019 10:36:23 GMT -5
Right , they got her very cheap ..Book it ! that is why , a dancer . Dumb statement Tiffany's hires the most expensive models. As an Img-model they set the price. They spent a fortune just on the set. Are you questioning beachguy's decades of experience in the high fashion industry? He even knows more than I do. |
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Post by Socal Fan on Aug 27, 2019 10:41:48 GMT -5
Now she is that "anyone can sing pop songs" person. Nothing special at all, just like what Piers Morgan meant. Agreed, Morgan was right. Which means that in order to stand out from the crowd, one needs songwriting and/or peronality. |
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Post by amg1977 on Aug 27, 2019 10:54:16 GMT -5
Yes that is her but I don't understand why Sia deleted the original that had a lot more view counts and they just let stand the one on Diplo youtube channel. Just a guess... the streaming money would go to the channel where the streaming occurred. Since Sia is by far the best known of the three, she would get the most streams. She also is likely the wealthiest by far of the three. Diplo, being a DJ, is probably the least wealthy. Perhaps the other two let him have the sole remaining copy on YouTube so he could get the streaming money. Besides, now Diplo owes them a favor if they need a top flight remix or some atmosphere for a new track. |
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Post by Pin the Tail on Aug 27, 2019 11:03:08 GMT -5
When Tiffany's one of the worlds largest Jewelry companies is loosing money 2 years in a role it's time to fire the CEO get a new management team then hire Maddie to bring in the Millennials and save your company and it worked. They aren't going to hire Jackie, Emily, Connie or anyone else normally talked about on this site. They are going to hire Maddie to show wearing their jewelry is not just for the older generation. Good resume for Maddie. www.bizjournals.com/bizwomen/news/latest-news/2018/06/tiffanys-marketing-gambit-designed-to-draw.html?page=allRichard, I'm afraid in your enthusiasm you have misrepresented the article somewhat:
1. The article does not state that Tiffany's was losing money. They were not. What it states is that they had declining sales for two years in a row. On Wall Street, this can be a problem in making stock prices take a dive since prices are set by expectations and meeting those expectations. When you do not meet expectations, there is often a rush to sell-off the stock by those only interested in short term gains and losses (hedge funds, day traders, etc.) to minimize their loss before the other short term investors can sell off theirs. Remaining shareholders and corporate boards of directors do not like their stock going south and this can lead to management change no matter how profitable the company had been the previous year.
2. The article does not credit signing Maddie Ziegler with the turnaround. In fact, the turnaround occurred beginning in 2017 when the new management took over and began expanding their target demographic to include millennials. The article states the stock reached an all time high in May 2018 based on record sales. That would have been the sales for first quarter 2018 which occurred prior to any advertisement using Maddie Ziegler had even appeared.
3. The article then states they have started a new round of ads using Maddie, actress Ellie Fanning, and some rapper named A$AP Ferg (never heard of him but I assume someone has) to further their appeal to millennials. The new campaign thus came after the turnaround and is not centered solely on Maddie.
4. Equally important to the marketing issues was the buyback of stock by Tiffany's. This puts the current management in charge of a much larger percentage of Tiffany stock and thus insulates them from the aforementioned turbulence with stock prices every time they have a disappointing quarter.
None of this is meant to minimize Maddie's accomplishment in getting signed for this campaign. It is a high profile position for a upper echelon retailer and bodes well for her future - not to mention getting some quality loaners for red carpet events. But let's not get carried away by making it seem as though Maddie pulled Tiffany's out of ruin when that simply is not the case. "Richard, I'm afraid in your enthusiasm you have misrepresented the article somewhat:" When making such an accusation, one should take care not to also be guilty of misrepresentation. You said, "The article states the stock reached an all time high in May 2018 based on record sales. That would have been the sales for first quarter 2018 which occurred prior to any advertisement using Maddie Ziegler had even appeared." Tiffany & Co produced the video below and posted it on their official YouTube channel in March 2018 (first quarter). "Published on Mar 23, 2018 Everything Tiffany stands for—creativity, love and strength—is embodied by Tiffany T. Some of our favorite iconoclasts wear the collection and share what it means to them." Notwithstanding the fashion expertise of a certain poster, do you suppose that celebrities like Elle Fanning, Zendaya and others were hired by Tiffany because of their cheap rates? This video was posted by the Getty Images TV YouTube channel, recorded at the Tiffany "Paper Flowers" launch event in Manhattan during the first week of May 2018. Lastly, when Maddie Ziegler arrived at the event, these photographers seemed to have been impressed with her, in spite of her standing as a "cheap dancer". |
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But let's not get carried away by making it seem as though Maddie pulled Tiffany's out of ruin when that simply is not the case.