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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 18:40:32 GMT -5
Im curious what eulenspiegel thinks about this, since he loathes Jackie: check out North West at the Hollywood Bowl. She is the 11 year old daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye “Ye” West.
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 18:53:57 GMT -5
and it seems the kids who were successful making that transition had large to huge, young fan bases and mad talent when then made it. Nope, no talent to speak of except in marketing themselves. In order to repeat success, it requires money. The money she earned (im speculating) was either put in a coogan or trust account that her Parents put together for her, if im wrong ill stand corrected. Whatever they didn't put in there obviously paid for the house. I see no evidence that Jackie wants to compete with someone like a BE or TM both showing their hooters on instagram for years and BE who released multiple physical versions of her latest album, had her biggest sales week but still came #2 to TS who also released multiple variations of her latest album. They have millions behind them. Decreases from album to album were very normal at the time but unless MP wants to invest hundreds of thousands or millions, she can't compete and its delusional to suggest she is competing with those people who have money thrown at them. Ive repeatedly suggested a PBS special that includes all her standards and even newer material with pledge drive breaks in the local markets where her concerts are at. This is not that hugely expensive and it will benefit as she can appeal both to a younger and older demo, that she needs. I have yet to see anyone else give a reasonable suggestion.
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Post by Disappointed on May 27, 2024 19:01:37 GMT -5
Even Cait mentions Lisa being benched in this post. Am I Cait today? Golly gee, what a thrill it is! But notice I said she eventually got benched, which she did. When the exact date was, who knows or cares.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 19:05:31 GMT -5
Can't believe I somewhat agree with eulenspiegel, but on the issue of the lack of training, he's correct. If Jackie's heart was fully into the classical (or CC camp), then yes, Jackie should have been engaging in a strenuous voice training program all of these years. If she had done that, she most likely could have been a CC queen for a long time I don't think anyone would have taken that on when she was just a child (there were "amazon rumors" though). Most people thought she was trained and the only way to find out is if she had any vocal issues, all the critics thought she would but she hasn't shown any damage. Well, yeah, few people do take that on, and that's why there are very few premier singers in classical. Eulenspiegel likely could provide a long list of child prodigies that subject themselves to vigorous vocal training. There's nothing inherently wrong about Jackie not going down the extensive training road. If she has had her long term sights in pop, there would be no need to do so
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 19:35:00 GMT -5
Well, it's great that you have Amazon rumors to rely on for the facts you bring to the forum. It was clear that Lisa was involved with Jackie's move to crossover material that showed up in late 2015-2017. Blank Space, Coming Home, Safe and Sound, Writing's on the Wall and With or Without You were being actively promoted by Lisa through the end of 2017. That's the facts, man. Quit trying to gaslight the members here. Is this schtick? All your personalities chased the so called members off. Even Cait mentions Lisa being benched in this post. This happened in 2015 and I spoke to Lisa then at the time when she was fine. If you're talking about her promoting videos up and until she shut that forum down, she had moderators who would help with that, Ana and Nanna the banana's. Again ive spoken about the facts for the last 13 years, I don't need a guest to validate anything. This is all common knowledge. As I recall, Lisa had booted you from the forum in those later years. Who knows how much access you had at the time? Doesn't matter. I was a member of the forum up until it was abruptly closed by Lisa in what many perceived as a fit of anger. Lisa expressed in her posts her active involvement up to the time that happened. The post you referred to does not mention the date when Lisa was benched. Regardless, you are speculating on the time frame based on hearsay. Yeah, Ana and Nanna were both sychophants and were both part of the Lisa Gestapo, but it is common knowledge that that Lisa was fully engaged with all-things Jackie well into 2017. Your 13 years of experience do you no good when you get your facts wrong.
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 27, 2024 19:44:29 GMT -5
Im curious what eulenspiegel thinks about this, since he loathes Jackie: check out North West at the Hollywood Bowl. She is the 11 year old daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye “Ye” West. I have my doubts..but you have to ask Emily Bear …she was there on Friday with mother and some friend .or ask the old guys next to her..I think they kind of are the ..of the event..or at least have an important position in the company
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Post by Socal Fan on May 27, 2024 19:48:02 GMT -5
According to reddit where I found this, ticket prices [for Black Keys concerts] were too steep. The price of everything is too high for some people. And what about Lorde? The seat map you depict is for a Black Keys concert in Nov, more than 5 months from now. So, of course, the number of tickets sold is small. And if the prices were too steep, the no-brainer solution is to reduce prices. But if you are right that Black Keys (a group with 4M Spotify followers and 12.5M monthly listeners) is having trouble organizing a concert tour, then it strongly suggests that Jackie's concert career is doomed. Is that your point? And what about Lorde? What does she have anything to do with Jackie?
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 19:50:48 GMT -5
Is this schtick? All your personalities chased the so called members off. Even Cait mentions Lisa being benched in this post. This happened in 2015 and I spoke to Lisa then at the time when she was fine. If you're talking about her promoting videos up and until she shut that forum down, she had moderators who would help with that, Ana and Nanna the banana's. Again ive spoken about the facts for the last 13 years, I don't need a guest to validate anything. This is all common knowledge. So far your story is fishy. Until you prove it otherwise: you were not a fan who attended concerts and you weren't at that forum or you would have seen me interact with Lisa.
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 19:53:35 GMT -5
Even Cait mentions Lisa being benched in this post. Am I Cait today? Golly gee, what a thrill it is! But notice I said she eventually got benched, which she did. When the exact date was, who knows or cares. We all get to be Cait when it is convenient for mr psychophant
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Post by The Jackinator on May 27, 2024 19:56:23 GMT -5
So far your story is fishy. Until you prove it otherwise: you were not a fan who attended concerts and you weren't at that forum or you would have seen me interact with Lisa. I am not denying that you interacted with Lisa up until you were booted. Your behavior was so OTT, that most members became afraid to be associated with you. It's pretty much carried over to this forum. You are just plain insane.
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Post by donkey on May 27, 2024 20:00:07 GMT -5
So far your story is fishy. Until you prove it otherwise: you were not a fan who attended concerts and you weren't at that forum or you would have seen me interact with Lisa. I am not denying that you interacted with Lisa up until you were booted. Your behavior was so OTT, that most members became afraid to be associated with you. It's pretty much carried over to this forum. You are just plain insane. I can vouch for that. lol
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 20:16:17 GMT -5
You are just plain insane. This is troll 101: projection, you're a pretty sick guy and you project onto fans and speak for fans that you don't know just like the so called waddlers. To me its OTT to create this character and donkey's to imitate fans.
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Post by msims on May 27, 2024 20:17:07 GMT -5
You wrote two posts when you could have read those reddit threads, tickets were as high as 600 bucks.
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Post by Socal Fan on May 27, 2024 20:38:32 GMT -5
You wrote two posts when you could have read those reddit threads, tickets were as high as 600 bucks. You never answered the question: what do Black Keys and Lorde have to do with Jackie?
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Post by eulenspiegel on May 27, 2024 20:47:42 GMT -5
Im curious what eulenspiegel thinks about this, since he loathes Jackie: check out North West at the Hollywood Bowl. She is the 11 year old daughter of Kim Kardashian and Kanye “Ye” West. He calls it a stunt casting…she should have not been there.. It seems that the casted originally down to 3 girls..same age..2 already on Broadway..but with the Kardashian money nepotism.. vm.tiktok.com/ZGe4QgsEd/She is just not good enough..a spoiled brat..
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