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Post by Fakelifestory on Jun 30, 2024 22:32:57 GMT -5
Jacob would have figured it out on his own, either he was a tranny or just gay, and obviously, at that point, he hadn't done that. You don't encourage a child to mutilate his body. Seems Lisa saw the Jacob to Juliet show as another meal ticket THIS! 100% true. To what extent, only Lisa knows. But it was true with the post-inauguartion leveraging the administration attempt. It was true with the coming out on the red carpet lyme disase event. It was the same with Juliet trying to be a model. It was the same with the Braveheart foundation and sueing the school district, and it sure as hell was true with the "Growing up Evancho" celebrity shitshow disaster episode. And you know what all of the above had in common? TRANS and $$$
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Post by The Jackinator on Jun 30, 2024 22:47:33 GMT -5
I vividly remember Jake/Juliet describing the night that Lisa told him that he might be a girl, and then him/her staying up all night researching the subject. That's the night that Juliet was born. I remember it because I was horrified that a mother would do something like that. I believe Lisa did the right thing. Juliet had been unhappy all her life because she felt like a girl and did girl things but had the body of a boy. Lisa told her she might be transgender and that changed her life for the better. "The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries. Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/Does Lisa's approach always work? Of course not. But I believe it gave Juliet a much better chance of not ending up as yet another sad statistic. The article states that the suicide rate is 32%-50% among those that are transgender. What's missing in this data is whether the sample population included individuals pre- and post- reassignment surgery. The study cited was a literature review that summarized research papers that among recent studies that generally skew toward transition surgery. The research was also skewed towards the availability of online accessible data. The results in this study did not break out the suicide rates of those that did or did not have reassignment surgery, so we cannot surmise whether Jacob/Juliet would have been more or less likely prone to suicide one way or the other. In fact, the article states that the breakdown of those transgenders that commit suicide do so for the following reasons: -break-up of love relationship initiated by the partner (64.3%), -serious altercations with family members (14.3%), -refusal of gender/sex reassignment by the family members (9.5%), -financial problems (9.5%), -being diagnosed with HIV positive in the past few days/weeks (2.4%) Decisions about becoming transgender lie as very low factors in those that commit suicide, while normal human relationship problems rank high. This research report: Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden found that 10 to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers. This is in a country that is strongly supportive of the transgendered. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885The suicide rate of the entire population is less than 1/1000 of a percent, so in reality, Jabob/Juliet was much MORE of a suicide risk by choosing to become transgender according to what is reported in these studies.
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Post by donkey on Jun 30, 2024 22:57:07 GMT -5
I believe Lisa did the right thing. Juliet had been unhappy all her life because she felt like a girl and did girl things but had the body of a boy. Lisa told her she might be transgender and that changed her life for the better. "The suicide attempt rate among transgender persons ranges from 32% to 50% across the countries. Gender-based victimization, discrimination, bullying, violence, being rejected by the family, friends, and community; harassment by intimate partner, family members, police and public; discrimination and ill treatment at health-care system are the major risk factors that influence the suicidal behavior among transgender persons."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5178031/Does Lisa's approach always work? Of course not. But I believe it gave Juliet a much better chance of not ending up as yet another sad statistic. The article states that the suicide rate is 32%-50% among those that are transgender. What's missing in this data is whether the sample population included individuals pre- and post- reassignment surgery. The study cited was a literature review that summarized research papers that among recent studies that generally skew toward transition surgery. The research was also skewed towards the availability of online accessible data. The results in this study did not break out the suicide rates of those that did or did not have reassignment surgery, so we cannot surmise whether Jacob/Juliet would have been more or less likely prone to suicide one way or the other. In fact, the article states that the breakdown of those transgenders that commit suicide do so for the following reasons: -break-up of love relationship initiated by the partner (64.3%), -serious altercations with family members (14.3%), -refusal of gender/sex reassignment by the family members (9.5%), -financial problems (9.5%), -being diagnosed with HIV positive in the past few days/weeks (2.4%) Decisions about becoming transgender lie as very low factors in those that commit suicide, while normal human relationship problems rank high. This research report: Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden found that 10 to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers. This is in a country that is strongly supportive of the transgendered. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885The suicide rate of the entire population is less than 1/1000 of a percent, so in reality, Jabob/Juliet was much MORE of a suicide risk by choosing to become transgender according to what is reported in these studies. And yet she seems MUCH happier since she changed over. I agree minors shouldn't be allowed change sex surgically or chemically, but adults can do what they want.
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Post by msims on Jun 30, 2024 23:23:35 GMT -5
Not sure what the Disney gig was for exactly, but I always wondered why Disney didn't scoop her up and do something with her when she was young. 1. Because there was no evidence that Jackie could act. youtube.com/watch?v=8IWOk63SpPQ youtube.com/watch?v=TZJmV6yZQEw youtube.com/watch?v=zdJLB0lEHHE youtube.com/watch?v=SKQf2S4vNNU youtube.com/watch?v=a49J_3cm1Yk youtube.com/watch?v=nBtigQkcgQ4 I was aware at that time that they had to turn down offers because of conflicts and even filming this movie meant turning down things. She was busy busy busy at the time. Jackie probably missed many opportunities because she stayed in Pittsburgh.. Not accurate around the time of Oprah she was out in LA auditioning. Saying Jackie can’t act, when Sally Field was in that sitcom Flying Nun, who at that time would have thought she would win an Academy Award? So I get tired 😴 of people saying Jackie can’t act, maybe that is true but I also believe she hasn’t had a David Foster type to help her develop her acting skills! You could say Robert Redford, but he didn’t really spend that much time with her to help her develop her acting skills! He wanted to get a film 🎥 made ! Mabye as a teen or adult, she could have done better with some training...who knows. I can only judge her acting skills based on the one movie she was in, and imo she came across as very amateurish. Put an experienced or highly talented 11 or 12 year old actor in the same role and that person would have blown Jackie out of the water. This is why I don't buy that you're a fan but I do buy that you're a donkey. Its Robert Redford's movie, he wanted and cast Jackie and he got the performance out of Jackie that he wanted, even said so in interviews, he said here that she was "wonderful" and she was. I saw the movie in the theater and I bought the bluray the week it was released, she more than held her own among veteran character actors. archive.naplesnews.com/entertainment/americas-got-talent-sensation-jackie-evancho-on-making-the-company-you-keep-ep-513994609-334314121.html/"Jackie is open to more acting gigs, if they come her way, but she has plenty on her plate in the meantime." Her voice is still gorgeous Disappointed, catch up! Yes, that is why her latest album sold millions and she is packing venues around the world. Oh wait, her album flopped and she could only sell 70 seats in a well known NYC restaurant/bar, most of those regulars, friends and OTTs. Solla was not physically released so it really hasnt had that opportunity to do anything other than being streamed. So thats another Biden fact from Caz and there were offers turned down. lol...well, most no longer know who she is Who are these stupid people you're talking about and who cares? An excellent comparison. My conclusion is that Jackie sings with a beautiful voice and Taylor sings with personality. Unfortunately for Jackie she doesn’t have the right combination of voice and personality. I would say it’s about 90% voice and only 10% personality, which isn’t going to cut it in the music business. Jackie's made a living in the music business for nearly 14 years. More biden/jds-isms. Leave it to Johnnyb to put a negative spin on Jackie, she might as well quit now! Sorry Bub, I call em like I see em. Jackie’s appeal to the younger generation is dismal to say the least. Good, if they are too stupid to realize good singing. Hardly anyone cares anymore about YOUR STORY, dear Jackie. They care about THEIR story. Most people are like yourself, closeted under an alias and narcissistic. That is why Jackie is successful because of the Haters. All those critics she referred to with Ave Maria last night. So keep it up Caz-a-Karen-illa. And she did sing for the pope. She da** well did. Her Team didn't get her that gig btw, it was a fan who wrote into the city I believe the request and the team or the city behind that appearance accepted. You had zero empathy for her back problems and eating disorder when you knew she was unhealthy and had that shortened tour. You carried on anyway with the trolling, which is why I don't buy the fan schtick. Yes, that is why her latest album sold millions and she is packing venues around the world. Oh wait, her album flopped and she could only sell 70 seats in a well known NYC restaurant/bar, most of those regulars, friends and OTTs. A "gorgeous" voice apparently isn't enough to overcome her downward trend. What is this downward trend btw? BME and GOOML are doing just fine. BME is being played in restaurants, stores. What more do you want? when I think about the music I listen to the most, ensemble wins over voice. What a group of musicians can do with good writing and music production can't be beat by just any singer standing next to a piano. I'm not sure I understand. Other than the rare duets, Jackie has been a solo singer for her whole career. If you prefer ensemble musicians, how did you ever become interested in her music? I don't think that animal was ever interested and id pay $28 to find out how that loon found her amazon forum but in monopoly money. Jackie being one of them. I grew tired of her act Not buying your story. I am buying Jackie's story because I was around at that time. What the hell is she doing? What was the point of doing a career retrospective instead of performing her new album? What she is doing is acknowledging that Stolla has not been successful. If Stolla had been successful, she would have sung all 6 Stolla songs plus a number of pop covers. But if she had done that, she would have sold 10 tickets instead of 70 tickets. She ended up singing a concert of mostly old CC favorites because that's what most of her audience wanted to hear. She had no choice. Her concerts have ALWAYS contained songs off ALL her albums and her fans know this. She stated just last week that she was proud of the success of BME. Albums or EP's have to be toured onto become successful, so this will take some time. The 3 million units didn't happen overnight, it took years. Seems Lisa saw the Jacob to Juliet show as another meal ticket post-inauguartion leveraging the administration attempt. coming out on the red carpet lyme disase event. Juliet trying to be a model. Braveheart foundation and sueing the school district,"Growing up Evancho" TRANS and $$$ Blah blah. This is a jealous new Caz bot. Someone made money and you didn't, jealous jenny. And yet she seems MUCH happier since she changed over. I agree minors shouldn't be allowed change sex surgically or chemically, but adults can do what they want. Its no ones business what anyone does to themselves. All the posts though about Juliet are projecting Caz's story onto Juliet.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jun 30, 2024 23:40:28 GMT -5
Jackie's acting role in The Company You Keep was not demanding enough to determine whether or not she had any acting ability.
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Post by The Jackinator on Jun 30, 2024 23:45:28 GMT -5
The article states that the suicide rate is 32%-50% among those that are transgender. What's missing in this data is whether the sample population included individuals pre- and post- reassignment surgery. The study cited was a literature review that summarized research papers that among recent studies that generally skew toward transition surgery. The research was also skewed towards the availability of online accessible data. The results in this study did not break out the suicide rates of those that did or did not have reassignment surgery, so we cannot surmise whether Jacob/Juliet would have been more or less likely prone to suicide one way or the other. In fact, the article states that the breakdown of those transgenders that commit suicide do so for the following reasons: -break-up of love relationship initiated by the partner (64.3%), -serious altercations with family members (14.3%), -refusal of gender/sex reassignment by the family members (9.5%), -financial problems (9.5%), -being diagnosed with HIV positive in the past few days/weeks (2.4%) Decisions about becoming transgender lie as very low factors in those that commit suicide, while normal human relationship problems rank high. This research report: Long-Term Follow-Up of Transsexual Persons Undergoing Sex Reassignment Surgery: Cohort Study in Sweden found that 10 to 15 years after surgical reassignment, the suicide rate of those who had undergone sex-reassignment surgery rose to 20 times that of comparable peers. This is in a country that is strongly supportive of the transgendered. journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885The suicide rate of the entire population is less than 1/1000 of a percent, so in reality, Jabob/Juliet was much MORE of a suicide risk by choosing to become transgender according to what is reported in these studies. And yet she seems MUCH happier since she changed over. I agree minors shouldn't be allowed change sex surgically or chemically, but adults can do what they want. Sure she seems happier, but she is in a much higher risk category for suicide, especially as time goes by
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Post by msims on Jun 30, 2024 23:48:48 GMT -5
Jackie's acting role in The Company You Keep was not demanding enough to determine whether or not she had any acting ability. In the edited post I quoted how much she had on her plate at that time, even acting in that movie meant turning stuff down.
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Post by Socal Fan on Jul 1, 2024 0:06:24 GMT -5
Jackie's acting role in The Company You Keep was not demanding enough to determine whether or not she had any acting ability. In the edited post I quoted how much she had on her plate at that time, even acting in that movie meant turning stuff down. She may have been busy in 2012. But she has not acted since then.
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Post by msims on Jul 1, 2024 0:10:46 GMT -5
In the edited post I quoted how much she had on her plate at that time, even acting in that movie meant turning stuff down. She may have been busy in 2012. But she has not acted since then. She took acting classes I believe and acted on TMS. But as far as serious acting, she would have to move to LA and go on auditions. The point is she had no time to do that at that time.
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Post by MSIMS, JME Pioneer on Jul 1, 2024 0:59:15 GMT -5
Not buying your story. I am buying Jackie's story because I was around at that time. You really believe the sh!t you post, don't you? Is there anyone left in your exclusive club? I'd like to see you go head to head with the Houston concert crowd. I'll bet that group would wipe the floor with your "I was around.." crap. I do think you were "around" before me, but we're talking months, because you were already on the E's sh!tlist when I joined JEFC. You're a terrible fan of Jackie's. Just absolutely terrible, and you do her a disservice with your venom and vitriol toward real fans. Move on. Take a nap. Take a walk. Have some soup. Watch some puppy videos. Take a nice dump. Be thankful. Let it go. Ease up. Breathe. Enjoy life. Smile. Call a friend. Cry. Tell someone you love them.
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Post by Caz and friends on Jul 1, 2024 2:02:41 GMT -5
Its no ones business what anyone does to themselves. All the posts though about Juliet are projecting Caz's story onto Juliet. It's a parent's job to protect their children, not only from others, but from themselves. If you saw your kid stabbing himself, you would say, "hey kid, it's no one's business what you do, so stab away." Sims, you're nuts. According to your logic, no one here is a Jackie fan but you. It appears that Caz and friends will continue to torture you well into the future. You've made no progress in convincing anyone to become like you, so be ready for more frustration. It certainly will be entertaining!
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Post by The Jackinator on Jul 1, 2024 2:30:11 GMT -5
The only family she mentioned was her dad, early on in the show. She said hi, or thanked him, or something like that...don't remember. lol When she mentioned her dad, I thought she was signaling that she was going to sing "What a Wonderful World". In the past, Jackie has always dedicated "the Impossible Dream" to her mom. This time I around, she dedicated the song to the fans. This doesn't prove that Jackie is estranged from Lisa, but it makes you wonder especially since dad got a mention, and mom didn't.
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 1, 2024 5:24:22 GMT -5
I think not..she regularly posts these kind of „VIP“ surprises… when not pickle surprises…a few ago an old photo with Jennifer Lopez http://instagram.com/p/C4y3HNWvacF Could be March 2009
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 1, 2024 5:27:37 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that Donk, the video and sound quality was excellent. As I commented on video..what about naming venue and pianist in title?
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Post by eulenspiegel on Jul 1, 2024 5:35:14 GMT -5
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